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Sounds like you worked in some dysfunctional places. If things worked that bad on the communication/management level, I'm not sure any system really had a chanc

Sounds like you worked in some dysfunctional places. If things worked that bad on the communication/management level, I'm not sure any system really had a chance of working well. If you get an experience like "to slap developers into rushing even more." then the problem seems to be somewhere else and I'm not sure we can judge agile itself from this. I've never seen a perfect place, but I'm sorry you had experiences like that. There really are places which function better and actually do friendly cooperation across levels.

pdimitar 2y ago
> If you get an experience like "to slap developers into rushing even more." then the problem seems to be somewhere else and I'm not sure we can judge agile itself from this. Oh, absolutely. Agreed. That's why I left several places during the course of the last 10-ish years. > I've never seen a perfect place, but I'm sorry you had experiences like that. There really are places which function better and actually do friendly cooperation across levels. Well, I just recently finished a limited term contract and started looking for a full-time employment (contracting is exhausting). Shout if you have anything. :) I mellowed out quite a lot in the last years and my comment above is just a triggered reaction.
paulcole 2y ago
If someone’s work history is littered with only dysfunctional companies, are we sure the companies are 100% of the issue?
- pdimitar 2y ago
  Regional work culture is a thing and it took me a long time to start looking outside of that bubble. I was pretty stupid when it comes to work negotiations and people abused that. Secondly, I don't think you'll find many programmers praising Scrum. But, think what you will. I'm absolutely the villain, congratulations, you cracked the code. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  - paulcole 2y ago
    There are numbers between 0 and 100.
    - pdimitar 2y ago
      Yes, and I never said 100% of my professional experiences were bad. I had extremely positive contracts that left me smiling. What I did say was that I never stumbled upon managers who did Scrum / Agile in a way that was empowering for the programmers. Obviously these two things are very different.

pdimitar 2y ago

> If you get an experience like "to slap developers into rushing even more." then the problem seems to be somewhere else and I'm not sure we can judge agile itself from this. Oh, absolutely. Agreed. That's why I left several places during the course of the last 10-ish years. > I've never seen a perfect place, but I'm sorry you had experiences like that. There really are places which function better and actually do friendly cooperation across levels. Well, I just recently finished a limited term contract and started looking for a full-time employment (contracting is exhausting). Shout if you have anything. :) I mellowed out quite a lot in the last years and my comment above is just a triggered reaction.

paulcole 2y ago

If someone’s work history is littered with only dysfunctional companies, are we sure the companies are 100% of the issue?

pdimitar 2y ago
Regional work culture is a thing and it took me a long time to start looking outside of that bubble. I was pretty stupid when it comes to work negotiations and people abused that. Secondly, I don't think you'll find many programmers praising Scrum. But, think what you will. I'm absolutely the villain, congratulations, you cracked the code. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- paulcole 2y ago
  There are numbers between 0 and 100.
  - pdimitar 2y ago
    Yes, and I never said 100% of my professional experiences were bad. I had extremely positive contracts that left me smiling. What I did say was that I never stumbled upon managers who did Scrum / Agile in a way that was empowering for the programmers. Obviously these two things are very different.