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Yes, I agree it's probably the right choice for them. Companies using the GitLab CE would probably never buy Mergify anyway, not only because they don't want to

by deng 2y ago

Yes, I agree it's probably the right choice for them. Companies using the GitLab CE would probably never buy Mergify anyway, not only because they don't want to spend money, but also: if they can live with the bare-bones GitLab CE, I can't imagine why they would have the need for Mergify. Regarding market share of GitLab, I would also assume that it's not looking good, but I only have anecdotal evidence. At least we (350 premium seat license) are definitely looking to migrate away from GitLab, for various reasons, but mostly cost. It seems the Premium tier has become the ugly step child of GitLab, but Ultimate is simply way too big a step cost-wise. Also, the new AI features have a hefty additional cost, and at least for coding, Copilot is superior in my experience. Combined with the overall bugginess of GitLab and missing essential features like proper code search (yes, I know, they will ship with Zoekt any day now), it's in a bad spot now compared to GitHub. EDIT: I forgot one very important additional thing: GitLab was attractive in the EU for regulatory reasons, as GitHub was US hosting only. But since end of October, GitHub has EU hosting generally available: https://github.blog/changelog/2024-10-29-github-enterprise-cloud-data-residency-in-the-eu-is-generally-available/ https://github.blog/changelog/2024-10-29-github-enterprise-c...

spockz 2y ago
AFAICT it doesn’t matter where things are hosted, the US still reserves the right to access the data because if the company or the parent company are based in or want to deal with the US. Or has this changed somewhere in the last 4 years since I looked at it?
- deng 2y ago
  That might very well be, but what are you gonna do? Forbid using Microsoft cloud services completely? As we say in Germany: that train has already left the station...
  - sam_lowry_ 2y ago
    With Trump in power, the train is running in reverse at full speed )
  - ghusto 2y ago
    Yes? It’s more a viable possibility than it’s ever been.
- throw0101d 2y ago
  > Or has this changed somewhere in the last 4 years since I looked at it? See perhaps: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Safe_Harbor_Privacy_Principles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Safe_Harbor_Priv... (expired) * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU–US_Privacy_Shield https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU–US_Privacy_Shield (expired(?)) > The EU parliament raised substantial doubts that the new agreement reached by Ursula von der Leyen is actually conform with EU laws, as it still does not sufficiently protect EU citizens from US mass surveillance and severely fails to enforce basic human digital rights in the EU.[7] In May 2023 a resolution on this matter passed the EU parliament with 306 votes in favor and only 27 against, but so far has stayed without consequences.[8] The NGO NOYB (European Center for Digital Rights) has announced that it will once again try to set the Framework out of force in front of the European Court of Justice.[9] * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU–US_Data_Privacy_Framework https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU–US_Data_Privacy_Framework (in place)

by deng 2y ago

spockz 2y ago

AFAICT it doesn’t matter where things are hosted, the US still reserves the right to access the data because if the company or the parent company are based in or want to deal with the US. Or has this changed somewhere in the last 4 years since I looked at it?

deng 2y ago
That might very well be, but what are you gonna do? Forbid using Microsoft cloud services completely? As we say in Germany: that train has already left the station...
- sam_lowry_ 2y ago
  With Trump in power, the train is running in reverse at full speed )
- ghusto 2y ago
  Yes? It’s more a viable possibility than it’s ever been.
throw0101d 2y ago
> Or has this changed somewhere in the last 4 years since I looked at it? See perhaps: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Safe_Harbor_Privacy_Principles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Safe_Harbor_Priv... (expired) * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU–US_Privacy_Shield https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU–US_Privacy_Shield (expired(?)) > The EU parliament raised substantial doubts that the new agreement reached by Ursula von der Leyen is actually conform with EU laws, as it still does not sufficiently protect EU citizens from US mass surveillance and severely fails to enforce basic human digital rights in the EU.[7] In May 2023 a resolution on this matter passed the EU parliament with 306 votes in favor and only 27 against, but so far has stayed without consequences.[8] The NGO NOYB (European Center for Digital Rights) has announced that it will once again try to set the Framework out of force in front of the European Court of Justice.[9] * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU–US_Data_Privacy_Framework https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU–US_Data_Privacy_Framework (in place)