> The issue isn't about the woman's right over her body, it's about the woman's right over the fetus. And all the "a woman's right over her body" talk, to oppon

> The issue isn't about the woman's right over her body, it's about the woman's right over the fetus. And all the "a woman's right over her body" talk, to opponents, looks like an attempt to sweep that under the rug and ignore it. "But they want to control our bodies!" No, most of them don't. They want you to not kill the fetuses. It has the same result, but a different motivation. I agree the democrats have long been screwing the pooch with the "pro choice" messaging extreme, but you're taking it too far in the other direction. Abortions past viability [outside the womb] are generally highly illegal in even the most "liberal" states, because that would indeed be murdering the fetus. What the religious fundamentalists want is for everyone to have to pretend that a non-viable fetus, likely suffering from genetic defects, is actually a person (with a "soul" per their beliefs), for as long as can be done until the life of the mother is finally threatened. They are of course free to push this narrative to their own communities, but making that regressive anti-scientific regime the limit for "medical care" available to everyone is utter dark ages insanity. And once again, I do completely agree with the overall point about the democratic party being a general failure - in both messaging and concrete policy. But I'm also not going to focus on this too hard right now because they're not the ones who actually pulled the giant self destruct lever. Responsibility where responsibility is due.