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This is great until you lose control of your domain because you forgot to pay it or whatever. What then? Whoever owns your domain owns your email address. It's

This is great until you lose control of your domain because you forgot to pay it or whatever. What then? Whoever owns your domain owns your email address. It's a good solution but it's got its faults too.

nobody9999 2y ago
>This is great until you lose control of your domain because you forgot to pay it or whatever. What then? Whoever owns your domain owns your email address. It's a good solution but it's got its faults too. Yeah, this is great until you lose control of your home because you forgot to pay the mortgage or whatever. What then? The bank owns your home. So, obviously, you should never buy a home with a loan, right? A mortgage is a good solution, but its got its faults too.
kirykl 2y ago
even buying an IPv4 block from your RIR and using one directly in your email has the same issue
narrator 2y ago
Might as well buy a 10 year discounted domain registration if it's your name. You'll be using it in 10 years anyway and it will be a good investment with the discount and inflation.
- trogdor 2y ago
  Exactly. My business owns dozens of mission-critical domains. Their registration is all fully paid through the early-2030s.
tzs 2y ago
> This is great until you lose control of your domain because you forgot to pay it or whatever. There's an easy way to address this that a lot of people overlook. Seriously, I'm not being snarky or sarcastic in what I'm about to say. A lot of people seem to really not considered this. Use a calendar. Every major desktop OS includes calendar software, I believe, as does every major mobile OS. Create a calendar on one of your devices and when you do something like buy a domain, but an annual recurring event named something like "renew domain" that will be due a couple weeks for the domain expires. Get in the habit of taking a look at the calendar every day. Most also allow you to assign alerts to events to further ensure you won't miss it.
- nobody9999 2y ago
  As I implied elsewhere, how does anyone manage to keep their house? I mean what if you forget to pay your mortgage? How does anyone keep their job? What if you forget to go to/do your work? How does anyone keep the electricity flowing/put food in the refrigerator/keep gas in the gas tank of their vehicle/maintain their internet access/etc./etc./etc. If something is important to someone, they'll take whatever steps are necessary to keep/maintain it. A calendar isn't a bad idea, but I assume GP has ways of making sure they do all those other things. What's different about a domain registration?
  - HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
    Those examples have tangible real world effects before they become permanently irreversible.
    - nobody9999 2y ago
      >Those examples have tangible real world effects before they become permanently irreversible. And losing access to your email/other domain assets doesn't have "tangible, real world effects"? In fact, those "real world" effects is what prompted[0] this discussion of custom domains to host one's email. Or am I missing something? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42078868 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42078868
      - tzs 2y ago
        I think you missed the word “before” in their comment. Miss a mortgage payment and the mortgage holder will try to contact you through many channels. If that fails and you keep missing payments and they decide to evict you, that process takes a while and will include even more attempts to contact you including printed notices left at your house. Miss renewing your domain and you will probably get email from the registrar about it, but if you didn’t have the foresight to set up a filter to whitelist those it might look like spam and you might miss it. You then only find out when your domain stops working. Also mortgage payments are typically monthly. When you have to do something monthly it is a lot easier to remember than things that are yearly, especially yearly things that aren’t associated with a holiday or other special day.
Aachen 2y ago
Related: .NL domains will warn you if they detect you're still being sent email after the domain expired. I think they do some analysis on' who's looking up your MX records. Of course, there's also the usual grace period

nobody9999 2y ago

>This is great until you lose control of your domain because you forgot to pay it or whatever. What then? Whoever owns your domain owns your email address. It's a good solution but it's got its faults too. Yeah, this is great until you lose control of your home because you forgot to pay the mortgage or whatever. What then? The bank owns your home. So, obviously, you should never buy a home with a loan, right? A mortgage is a good solution, but its got its faults too.

kirykl 2y ago

even buying an IPv4 block from your RIR and using one directly in your email has the same issue

narrator 2y ago

Might as well buy a 10 year discounted domain registration if it's your name. You'll be using it in 10 years anyway and it will be a good investment with the discount and inflation.

trogdor 2y ago
Exactly. My business owns dozens of mission-critical domains. Their registration is all fully paid through the early-2030s.

tzs 2y ago

> This is great until you lose control of your domain because you forgot to pay it or whatever. There's an easy way to address this that a lot of people overlook. Seriously, I'm not being snarky or sarcastic in what I'm about to say. A lot of people seem to really not considered this. Use a calendar. Every major desktop OS includes calendar software, I believe, as does every major mobile OS. Create a calendar on one of your devices and when you do something like buy a domain, but an annual recurring event named something like "renew domain" that will be due a couple weeks for the domain expires. Get in the habit of taking a look at the calendar every day. Most also allow you to assign alerts to events to further ensure you won't miss it.

nobody9999 2y ago
As I implied elsewhere, how does anyone manage to keep their house? I mean what if you forget to pay your mortgage? How does anyone keep their job? What if you forget to go to/do your work? How does anyone keep the electricity flowing/put food in the refrigerator/keep gas in the gas tank of their vehicle/maintain their internet access/etc./etc./etc. If something is important to someone, they'll take whatever steps are necessary to keep/maintain it. A calendar isn't a bad idea, but I assume GP has ways of making sure they do all those other things. What's different about a domain registration?
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
  Those examples have tangible real world effects before they become permanently irreversible.
  - nobody9999 2y ago
    >Those examples have tangible real world effects before they become permanently irreversible. And losing access to your email/other domain assets doesn't have "tangible, real world effects"? In fact, those "real world" effects is what prompted[0] this discussion of custom domains to host one's email. Or am I missing something? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42078868 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42078868
    - tzs 2y ago
      I think you missed the word “before” in their comment. Miss a mortgage payment and the mortgage holder will try to contact you through many channels. If that fails and you keep missing payments and they decide to evict you, that process takes a while and will include even more attempts to contact you including printed notices left at your house. Miss renewing your domain and you will probably get email from the registrar about it, but if you didn’t have the foresight to set up a filter to whitelist those it might look like spam and you might miss it. You then only find out when your domain stops working. Also mortgage payments are typically monthly. When you have to do something monthly it is a lot easier to remember than things that are yearly, especially yearly things that aren’t associated with a holiday or other special day.

Aachen 2y ago

Related: .NL domains will warn you if they detect you're still being sent email after the domain expired. I think they do some analysis on' who's looking up your MX records. Of course, there's also the usual grace period