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Can you give an example of how a "woke" AI harms you, or how an "unwoke" AI would help you achieve something? I have yet to see an example of the actual proble

Can you give an example of how a "woke" AI harms you, or how an "unwoke" AI would help you achieve something? I have yet to see an example of the actual problem that so many people are upset about.

swatcoder 2y ago
Imagine that you're a mindful creative writer that wants to benefit from AI as a tool for assisting your workflow. As it happens, your personal philosophy aligns perfectly with what others call "woke", and because you're passionate about them, you want to explore those moral themes in your work by pushing against their boundaries. You want scenes and even chapters that are individually "unwoke" so that you can capture an imperfect reality, directly illustrate the consequences of these attitudes as you see them, and guide your reader on a long journey to your personal hell and back so that they can more readily see the world the way you do. You think this kind of thing is good writing. Unfortunately, "woke" AI disagrees with you. It won't help you unless you trick it, and it'll take every opportunity it can to scold you for straying too far from the village. It plays a very shallow, moralizing, and incurious nanny that casts a shadow over any kind of sophisticated, thoughtful art.
jim-jim-jim 2y ago
I am not very fond of AI, but even for stupid fun I've had trouble getting it to compose in the vein of cheeky authors like Marquis de Sade, Georges Bataille, Jean Genet, and William Burroughs. I've similarly had it refuse Francis Bacon and Hans Bellmer prompts. Mind you none of this has anything to do with government regulations: only the Ned Flanders monoculture that colors the entire tech sphere at the moment.
- rsynnott 2y ago
  > cheeky authors like Marquis de Sade I think that might be the first time de Sade has ever been described as 'cheeky'. Some of his stuff would horrify 4chan.

Can you give an example of how a "woke" AI harms you, or how an "unwoke" AI would help you achieve something? I have yet to see an example of the actual problem that so many people are upset about.

swatcoder 2y ago

Imagine that you're a mindful creative writer that wants to benefit from AI as a tool for assisting your workflow. As it happens, your personal philosophy aligns perfectly with what others call "woke", and because you're passionate about them, you want to explore those moral themes in your work by pushing against their boundaries. You want scenes and even chapters that are individually "unwoke" so that you can capture an imperfect reality, directly illustrate the consequences of these attitudes as you see them, and guide your reader on a long journey to your personal hell and back so that they can more readily see the world the way you do. You think this kind of thing is good writing. Unfortunately, "woke" AI disagrees with you. It won't help you unless you trick it, and it'll take every opportunity it can to scold you for straying too far from the village. It plays a very shallow, moralizing, and incurious nanny that casts a shadow over any kind of sophisticated, thoughtful art.

jim-jim-jim 2y ago

I am not very fond of AI, but even for stupid fun I've had trouble getting it to compose in the vein of cheeky authors like Marquis de Sade, Georges Bataille, Jean Genet, and William Burroughs. I've similarly had it refuse Francis Bacon and Hans Bellmer prompts. Mind you none of this has anything to do with government regulations: only the Ned Flanders monoculture that colors the entire tech sphere at the moment.

rsynnott 2y ago
> cheeky authors like Marquis de Sade I think that might be the first time de Sade has ever been described as 'cheeky'. Some of his stuff would horrify 4chan.