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All bidets I've looked at including Tushy seem really complicated to install (basically having to redo the plumbing) and I don't understand how so many people c

by Kiro 2y ago

All bidets I've looked at including Tushy seem really complicated to install (basically having to redo the plumbing) and I don't understand how so many people can just buy and install one like it's nothing. Am I imagining things? Edit: Not in the US and the plumbing looks a bit like this, but without the nuts so you can't easily disconnect a part of it: https://static.byggahus.se/attachments/images/large/341/341602-f04786c0e6aa12b7b1359df83263cb9c.jpg https://static.byggahus.se/attachments/images/large/341/3416...

infecto 2y ago
US based plumbing. You are imagining things. Most/all resi toilets in the US use a flex hose to connect the toilet to your water supply. Its usually a threaded connection. All these style of bidets simply have a T off of this connection.
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- Kiro 2y ago
  Not in the US. The pipe just goes straight into the toilet. When googling around seeing articles about installing Tushy when you have rigid pipes they are still much more flexible than mine, with separate parts you can disconnect and replace.
  - syntheticnature 2y ago
    I was in the situation you describe when I got a bidet. It's possible to replace that pipe -- a little more work of course, but it's still turn off water, replace pipe with flexi-hose, connect bidet.
    - Kiro 2y ago
      I posted a picture in my original comment. Was it in the same ballpark? The difference with mine is that there are no nuts on the pipes next to the wall. It's one solid construction going from the sink through the toilet to the shower.
mikestew 2y ago
To follow on to user infecto’s sibling comment, for most U. S. homes, it is probably fifteen minutes of work. Shut off water, connect t-line, bolt down new toilet seat, sorted. It shouldn’t be complicated for most installations.
tapoxi 2y ago
I bought a Tushy during the pandemic, it took about 10 minutes and a flathead screwdriver. I liked it so much that when I had a new bathroom installed a year later I put in a Toto Washlet.
- 7373737373 2y ago
  I feel like Toto is failing with their marketing, since people are not really aware of their products outside of Japan. No good and cheap alternatives either
  - dzhiurgis 2y ago
    Is Toto really that better than others? I have both (very old Toto vs Chinese no-name) and I see no difference.
    - fellowniusmonk 2y ago
      You can pry my toto drake 2 from my cold dead hands.
  - newdee 2y ago
    Duravit aren’t cheap, but are much cheaper than Toto (at least in the UK) whose pricing is kinda outrageous.
    - its_down_again 2y ago
      I’ve got a Duravit toilet here in the US, and I'm on the hunt for a compatible cold-water bidet seat under $300 on Amazon. I originally went for a Brondell, thinking it would match the shape and dimensions. But halfway through the install, I realized it wasn’t going to fit around the seat connectors. Duravit's own bidet seats are around $1,000-- I'm tempted, but they look like a lot of work to install. I’m starting to wonder if I should just upgrade the whole toilet to a model that comes with a bidet.
  - toyg 2y ago
raphaelb 2y ago
It depends on what your toilet supply lines are like and if you use a cold water only or a cold/hot water bidet, but a cold water only one (not nearly as uncomfortable as imagined before trying it) is very easy to install as long as your supply line has a shutoff valve and is relatively flexible. It takes 15-20 minutes and it basically consists of unscrewing a few things and screwing them back together again.
Digory 2y ago
If you can handle putting the nozzle on your garden hose, you should be able to handle it. In the US, the water pipe almost always connects to the toilet through a small shutoff valve. After the valve, it connects to the toilet through a "supply." The supply is basically a short garden hose, with screw-on connections at both ends. Shut off the water at the wall. Flush to empty the toilet tank. Unscrew the hose at the toilet, and screw that end into what amounts to a y, or splitter that comes with the bidet. From the splitter, screw one side back into the toilet connection; the other goes to the bidet itself. Turn back on the water at the wall. (This is for a simple cold-water bidet. If you need heated water or electricity, it can be more complex.)
- taftster 2y ago
  I mean, but don't you need warm water and/or electricity? I can't see liking a bidet if it's basically just cold tap water shooting up my bum. Not sure that's going to do it for me. I've always thought that both hot water and electricity would be a minimal barrier to entry for a bidet. And that neither of these exist in a typical toilet closet. Am I fundamentally wrong about this??
  - dvngnt_ 2y ago
    it's really not that cold. i can't do cold showers at all and tap water bidet feels nothing like it.
    - jdyer9 2y ago
      Same, I don't even like washing my hands with cold tap water, but cold bidet water is no issue.
  - fiatpandas 2y ago
    The bidet heats up the water instantly, there is no requirement for a hot water supply. Just connect it to the existing water supply the toilet uses. You do however need electricity. I had to run an extension cord for mine, which I tucked away in low profile conduit to keep things tidy looking.
dyeje 2y ago
I ended up buying a travel bidet because I couldn’t install one at our house for various reasons. It’s basically just a squeeze bottle with an angled head. Works great!
- roland35 2y ago
  Just don't get it mixed up with your water bottle!!
MisterTea 2y ago
Those are compression fittings which we also use in the USA for sink and toilet connections. Standard size here is 3/8 inch which is the outer diameter of the tubing. They are easy to work with as you only need a tube cutter (or hacksaw with fine tooth pitch) and a wrench. You cut the tube, slide a compression nut over, slide the ferrule(s) on, insert the tube into the fitting, finger tighten the compression nut, make sure everything is aligned then tighten nut with wrench. No solder, no fancy crimp tools. You can disassemble and reassemble without leaks. The only issue is the ferrule winds up becoming swaged to the tube after wrench tightening so you have to cut the tube end off behind the ferrule if you want to replace the nut. However, instead of using rigid metal or plastic tubing you commonly find a flexible hose assembly[1]. Only fancy installs use custom formed polished rigid tube for the look. We also tend to leave most of the plumbing in the walls and only the shut off valve protrudes from the wall. Maybe there are flexible hoses available in your region. When I installed my bidet all I needed was a 3/8 compression tee[2] which they make specifically to tap shutoff valves. The bidet came with a 3/8 connection hose so that went to the tee and I was up and running. The big issue was electric - no outlets in the bathroom. So having seen how Japan loves extension cords I too used one, ran a 12 AWG cord out to the hall to a GFI adapter plugged into a socket. Jank but highly unlikely to cause a fire. [1] https://www.homedepot.com/b/Plumbing-Plumbing-Parts-Supply-Lines/Toilet-Connector/N-5yc1vZbqjnZ1z138l5 https://www.homedepot.com/b/Plumbing-Plumbing-Parts-Supply-L... [2] https://www.amazon.com/Breezliy-Lead-Free-Compression-Outlet-Connect/dp/B0BDLBZ9P6/ https://www.amazon.com/Breezliy-Lead-Free-Compression-Outlet...

by Kiro 2y ago

infecto 2y ago

US based plumbing. You are imagining things. Most/all resi toilets in the US use a flex hose to connect the toilet to your water supply. Its usually a threaded connection. All these style of bidets simply have a T off of this connection.

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Kiro 2y ago
Not in the US. The pipe just goes straight into the toilet. When googling around seeing articles about installing Tushy when you have rigid pipes they are still much more flexible than mine, with separate parts you can disconnect and replace.
- syntheticnature 2y ago
  I was in the situation you describe when I got a bidet. It's possible to replace that pipe -- a little more work of course, but it's still turn off water, replace pipe with flexi-hose, connect bidet.
  - Kiro 2y ago
    I posted a picture in my original comment. Was it in the same ballpark? The difference with mine is that there are no nuts on the pipes next to the wall. It's one solid construction going from the sink through the toilet to the shower.

mikestew 2y ago

To follow on to user infecto’s sibling comment, for most U. S. homes, it is probably fifteen minutes of work. Shut off water, connect t-line, bolt down new toilet seat, sorted. It shouldn’t be complicated for most installations.

tapoxi 2y ago

I bought a Tushy during the pandemic, it took about 10 minutes and a flathead screwdriver. I liked it so much that when I had a new bathroom installed a year later I put in a Toto Washlet.

7373737373 2y ago
I feel like Toto is failing with their marketing, since people are not really aware of their products outside of Japan. No good and cheap alternatives either
- dzhiurgis 2y ago
  Is Toto really that better than others? I have both (very old Toto vs Chinese no-name) and I see no difference.
  - fellowniusmonk 2y ago
    You can pry my toto drake 2 from my cold dead hands.
- newdee 2y ago
  Duravit aren’t cheap, but are much cheaper than Toto (at least in the UK) whose pricing is kinda outrageous.
  - its_down_again 2y ago
    I’ve got a Duravit toilet here in the US, and I'm on the hunt for a compatible cold-water bidet seat under $300 on Amazon. I originally went for a Brondell, thinking it would match the shape and dimensions. But halfway through the install, I realized it wasn’t going to fit around the seat connectors. Duravit's own bidet seats are around $1,000-- I'm tempted, but they look like a lot of work to install. I’m starting to wonder if I should just upgrade the whole toilet to a model that comes with a bidet.
- toyg 2y ago

raphaelb 2y ago

It depends on what your toilet supply lines are like and if you use a cold water only or a cold/hot water bidet, but a cold water only one (not nearly as uncomfortable as imagined before trying it) is very easy to install as long as your supply line has a shutoff valve and is relatively flexible. It takes 15-20 minutes and it basically consists of unscrewing a few things and screwing them back together again.

Digory 2y ago

If you can handle putting the nozzle on your garden hose, you should be able to handle it. In the US, the water pipe almost always connects to the toilet through a small shutoff valve. After the valve, it connects to the toilet through a "supply." The supply is basically a short garden hose, with screw-on connections at both ends. Shut off the water at the wall. Flush to empty the toilet tank. Unscrew the hose at the toilet, and screw that end into what amounts to a y, or splitter that comes with the bidet. From the splitter, screw one side back into the toilet connection; the other goes to the bidet itself. Turn back on the water at the wall. (This is for a simple cold-water bidet. If you need heated water or electricity, it can be more complex.)

taftster 2y ago
I mean, but don't you need warm water and/or electricity? I can't see liking a bidet if it's basically just cold tap water shooting up my bum. Not sure that's going to do it for me. I've always thought that both hot water and electricity would be a minimal barrier to entry for a bidet. And that neither of these exist in a typical toilet closet. Am I fundamentally wrong about this??
- dvngnt_ 2y ago
  it's really not that cold. i can't do cold showers at all and tap water bidet feels nothing like it.
  - jdyer9 2y ago
    Same, I don't even like washing my hands with cold tap water, but cold bidet water is no issue.
- fiatpandas 2y ago
  The bidet heats up the water instantly, there is no requirement for a hot water supply. Just connect it to the existing water supply the toilet uses. You do however need electricity. I had to run an extension cord for mine, which I tucked away in low profile conduit to keep things tidy looking.

dyeje 2y ago

I ended up buying a travel bidet because I couldn’t install one at our house for various reasons. It’s basically just a squeeze bottle with an angled head. Works great!

roland35 2y ago
Just don't get it mixed up with your water bottle!!

MisterTea 2y ago

Those are compression fittings which we also use in the USA for sink and toilet connections. Standard size here is 3/8 inch which is the outer diameter of the tubing. They are easy to work with as you only need a tube cutter (or hacksaw with fine tooth pitch) and a wrench. You cut the tube, slide a compression nut over, slide the ferrule(s) on, insert the tube into the fitting, finger tighten the compression nut, make sure everything is aligned then tighten nut with wrench. No solder, no fancy crimp tools. You can disassemble and reassemble without leaks. The only issue is the ferrule winds up becoming swaged to the tube after wrench tightening so you have to cut the tube end off behind the ferrule if you want to replace the nut. However, instead of using rigid metal or plastic tubing you commonly find a flexible hose assembly[1]. Only fancy installs use custom formed polished rigid tube for the look. We also tend to leave most of the plumbing in the walls and only the shut off valve protrudes from the wall. Maybe there are flexible hoses available in your region. When I installed my bidet all I needed was a 3/8 compression tee[2] which they make specifically to tap shutoff valves. The bidet came with a 3/8 connection hose so that went to the tee and I was up and running. The big issue was electric - no outlets in the bathroom. So having seen how Japan loves extension cords I too used one, ran a 12 AWG cord out to the hall to a GFI adapter plugged into a socket. Jank but highly unlikely to cause a fire. [1] https://www.homedepot.com/b/Plumbing-Plumbing-Parts-Supply-Lines/Toilet-Connector/N-5yc1vZbqjnZ1z138l5 https://www.homedepot.com/b/Plumbing-Plumbing-Parts-Supply-L... [2] https://www.amazon.com/Breezliy-Lead-Free-Compression-Outlet-Connect/dp/B0BDLBZ9P6/ https://www.amazon.com/Breezliy-Lead-Free-Compression-Outlet...