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I hate how politically jaded I have become reading anything related to modern archeology. When first introducing Ephesus (why not add '(a Greek founded and spe
by _DeadFred_ 2y ago
I hate how politically jaded I have become reading anything related to modern archeology.
When first introducing Ephesus (why not add '(a Greek founded and speaking city)'. I mean they are talking about Roman cultural introduction to the existing culture, saying 'Anatolia' doesn't give me context of the culture being introduced to Roman ways. There was no 'Anatolian' culture.
Why say 'Greek-style athletic contests' when they were just actual greek athletic contests held largely in Greek founded, Greek speaking cities? With so much modern agenda filtering archaeology I can't help but see erasure that much of Anatolia was Greek or greek founded. I just see a misleading implication that these cities hosting 'greek style contests' weren't, you know, culturally Greeks. It is crazy that there are 14 instances of Anatolia and the only time Greek occurs is 'Greek style'.
- ilayn 2y agoAnatolia is a Greek word. Read some. It will give you confidence about yourself so you don't seek confirmation from every piece.
- _DeadFred_ 2y agoAnd your point other than a personal attack on my feelings of self worth (in direct violation of not just the rules but the ethos of Hacker News)? Anatolia is a location, not a culture. This is an article on cultural changes. Using Anatolia, a large region of land, as a descriptor for culture seems weird an needlessly imprecise in an archeological/anthropological sense for an article talking about an impact on cultures (what cultures?). Why would someone use 'Greek-style athletic contests' when 'greek athletic contests' is a more accurate/direct/correct description? It is totally valid to say 'I don't like the current trend of twisting words/obfuscating, it sucks and makes me defensive reading the article, and the use of this less descriptive subsubstition and zero direct mention triggered that distrust'. Or are you saying I should just brainlessly consume everything I read online and to do otherwise is somehow not manly?
- ilayn 2y agoYou should read more carefully to start with before accusing everything you see that does not fit into your narrative. requiring n time the word Greek until you are satisfied is a you problem. I don't care enough about you to attack you personally. If you read more on these you would not get stuck in these accounting problems.
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- _DeadFred_ 2y agoWhy lead with more personally directed comments? Instead help me understand how a geographic area that has changed cultures is the best way to refer to the culture being talked about? At least refer to XYZ/ABC/123 populated Anatolia or something (I get it can get somewhat blurry in that area and time). I don't think the linguistic root of the geographic area's name gives all that much context and think they cop out because interdisciplinary politics of if ABC or XYZ is Greek but they then leave unread people like myself uninformed who they are talking about. They went into enough specifics to name individual cities but I admit I don't always know which cultures lived in which cities in which time periods off the top of my head. I remember just enough that calling it 'Greek style' for the Greek cities they named seemed wrong to me. I think it's more informative when articles gives at least a little insight to unread people like me on which populations they are referring to, not just geography: https://gizmodo.com/dna-from-pompeii-victims-reveals-surprising-relationships-amidst-the-chaos-2000520264 https://gizmodo.com/dna-from-pompeii-victims-reveals-surpris... Many people (ok, Americans :) ) don't even realize Greeks lived in Anatolia anymore.
- biorach 2y agoI don't see the need to ascribe anything to an agenda. This is an article for popular consumption. They are focusing on the exciting bits (the gladiator stuff) and skimping on the wider cultural background. All pretty standard for popular science articles.
- _DeadFred_ 2y agoHow does that necesitate using the less descriptive 'Greek-style athletic contests' than just saying Greek athletic contests? Wouldn't it be better to use the more familiar Greek or identifier in the case of popular consumption?