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Democrats don't say or do anything other than call Trump Hitler and Republicans Nazis and Americans either deplorables or garbage. I don't have time to waste on
by aguaviva 2y ago
Democrats don't say or do anything other than call Trump Hitler and Republicans Nazis and Americans either deplorables or garbage. I don't have time to waste on that nonsense.
Then don't. Because it really doesn't have any substance or significance. At all.
The thing is, you're reacting to these signals as extremely overblown caricatures, as being way, way bigger than they actually are, as if they're hugely important and should somehow factor into the decision of what party you should support.
First, as for saying Trump is Hitler, or Republicans are Nazis -- while I'm sure that happens on some dark corners of Reddit (which has no relevance to anything, and isn't worth a second of your time anyway) -- mainstream Democrats (meaning the ones actually running or office) do not, and you simply will not be able to find any instances of them doing so. Yet, in your universe, it seems a huge, huge thing that you apparently think happens all the time.
As for Biden's remark -- it was obviously stupid, but the guy is just as obviously in the early stages of clinical dementia. I've had people in those phases in my family as well, and it breaks my heart to think of some of the things they said in their final years -- but that was the disease talking, not them. Seriously, when you hear that news item, your gut reaction should have been to have some empathy with the guy. And not to think of what he said as having any kind of significance at all in terms of your future or the direction of the country.
Just another instance:
The southern border is non-existent
Of course it isn't -- that's just an emotional distortion, and a rather extreme one at that, completely disconnected from reality. It's simply an empty catchphrase, that some politician (or some other random pundit) whipped up to make you afraid, and angry.
And yet it's the very first item on the top of your agenda.
- Dalewyn 2y ago>Then don't. And I didn't: I voted for Trump and Republicans who at least waste less of my time. >as for saying Trump is Hitler, or Republicans are Nazis ... mainstream Democrats (meaning the ones actually running or office) do not, and you simply will not be able to find any instances of them doing so. Excuse me?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8R4S4S8jhA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8R4S4S8jhA I'm not going to bother finding more because my Youtube recommendations are fucked up enough as it is. >As for Biden's remark -- it was obviously stupid, but the guy is just as obviously in the early stages of clinical dementia. He is the incumbent POTUS and Harris's direct superior, that makes it even worse than when Clinton called Americans a basket of deplorables. >Of course it isn't There is a very sharp difference between Trump and Obama/Biden/Harris regarding border control, and as far as I'm concerned I want whatever Trump was doing back. We are the only country on the planet where proper border security is argued as a crime against humanity, and I'm sick of that.
- aguaviva 2y agoExcuse me? You may want to look at the definition of the f-word, and how it differs from the N-word, at some point.
- Dalewyn 2y agoCiting Godwin's Law[1], the meaning of "Nazi", "Hitler", "facist", "racist", "sexist", and all the other "-ists" today is: "Someone or something which I do not like." [1]: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GodwinsLaw https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GodwinsLaw >A real invocation of Godwin's Law is really an accusation of poor debating, as it amounts to accusing your opponent of comparing you to an atrocity so evil as to be non-debatable, which is not only very rarely a fair comparison, but also is very insensitive to real-life victims and their descendants. Usually, it's seen as an act of desperation, in the sense that you've run out of better arguments.
- aguaviva 2y agoExcept that's not the definition of either of those words, and has nothing to do with what they actually mean. It's just an internet meme - designed to be, you know, cute and funny. Try your local library instead.
- Dalewyn 2y agoGodwin's Law actually predates the internet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum Whatever the law might be called, the result is the same: The vapid use of words as fallback insults leads to the words inevitably losing any valuable meaning. Kelly called Trump fascist invoking Hitler, Harris called Trump fascist in kind, Democrats called Trump and Republicans racists/sexists/rapists/fascists. As a reasonable man, all I can take away is that you guys don't like Trump and Republicans and everyone who sides with them. If that's your mojo then that's fine, but those words are otherwise worthless as far as I'm concerned. Please stop violating Godwin's Law and make an argument worth discussing instead.
- mixmastamyk 2y ago> completely disconnected from reality How to say you've not been in a border state in the last decade, without saying it.
- aguaviva 2y agoThat wasn't the phrase under contention. Here it is again: The southern border is non-existent It's completely vacuous. Pure semantic garbage.
- mixmastamyk 2y agoIt’s called hyperbole, and relatively clear OP didn’t mean it to be read literally. The end result is the same as well.