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I think what’s happening to Portugal is mainly due to poor governance. Expats and tourists are a patsy that only affect very specific neighborhoods in central L

I think what’s happening to Portugal is mainly due to poor governance. Expats and tourists are a patsy that only affect very specific neighborhoods in central Lisbon. And anyways we aren’t moving to Portugal. We have a few spots in mind, several of them are within the 2 EU countries where we are citizens. Bit odd to suggest we’d be net negatives in our own countries any more than you are a net negative in yours. But I suppose we are all a net negative when it comes to carbon emissions and environmental impact.

kranke155 2y ago
The proliferation of Airbnbs in Lisbon is real. Airbnbs were part of the destruction of that city for residents. They’re priced out. Tourists are not a patsy. Their impact on the city and real estate prices was devastating.
- futureshock 2y ago
  It’s your country. Elect some officials willing to tax and regulate the Airbnb issue and stimulate home building. How can you blame anyone else? The tourists and expats are there by your invitation.
  - kranke155 2y ago
    Ridiculous. First you say its not a real problem, then when I point it is, and the far right will win elections on it, you say "its your country!!" Yeah they will be fixed, not in a way that will be pleasant to you. I didnt invite a single person. The owners of capital did. This cold, zero empathy attitude is very typical of the "expat" culture.
    - futureshock 2y ago
      Why should I or you care if your elected officials make a solution I don’t like? I’m not a citizen of Portugal, not a resident and an only occasional visitor. If the government massively decreases the supply of tourist accommodations in favor of residents, then I’ll just see that it’s a bit too expensive and possibly visit somewhere else. Exactly like the regulation of capitalism should work. Not sure what kind of empathy you are looking for. How could I possibly solve your problems? Only when you take responsibility, as the only people in the world with a vote, can you change the situation.

kranke155 2y ago

The proliferation of Airbnbs in Lisbon is real. Airbnbs were part of the destruction of that city for residents. They’re priced out. Tourists are not a patsy. Their impact on the city and real estate prices was devastating.

futureshock 2y ago
It’s your country. Elect some officials willing to tax and regulate the Airbnb issue and stimulate home building. How can you blame anyone else? The tourists and expats are there by your invitation.
- kranke155 2y ago
  Ridiculous. First you say its not a real problem, then when I point it is, and the far right will win elections on it, you say "its your country!!" Yeah they will be fixed, not in a way that will be pleasant to you. I didnt invite a single person. The owners of capital did. This cold, zero empathy attitude is very typical of the "expat" culture.
  - futureshock 2y ago
    Why should I or you care if your elected officials make a solution I don’t like? I’m not a citizen of Portugal, not a resident and an only occasional visitor. If the government massively decreases the supply of tourist accommodations in favor of residents, then I’ll just see that it’s a bit too expensive and possibly visit somewhere else. Exactly like the regulation of capitalism should work. Not sure what kind of empathy you are looking for. How could I possibly solve your problems? Only when you take responsibility, as the only people in the world with a vote, can you change the situation.