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Unfortunately, Puerto Rico is in a pretty bad spot[1] and while I agree the joke is crude I also think it's a fair criticism of the island's state. Note that th

Unfortunately, Puerto Rico is in a pretty bad spot[1] and while I agree the joke is crude I also think it's a fair criticism of the island's state. Note that the criticism is directed at the island and not the people thereof, that would be firing too close to home. Also interestingly, Puerto Rican and Latino votes for Trump actually increased[2] fueled primarily by economic and governance concerns. That joke ultimately didn't seem to have a negative impact, if any. Contrast Biden calling Americans garbage, which simply added more fuel to the furor behind Trump and Republicans. As for the hypothetical question: If someone joked Japan is a floating island of garbage and there is actual basis for that criticism, I would take that as a cue to man up and make myself and my homeland great again so I can look at the joker in the eye with results. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Percent_population_below_poverty_level_by_Puerto_Rico_census_tract_(2015).png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Percent_population_below_... [2]: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cze3yr77j9wo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cze3yr77j9wo

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aguaviva 2y ago
Hmm -- if someone threw that comment at my direction, I'd just assume they were a complete idiot, and not worth a further second of my time. I certainly wouldn't take it as a cue that I need to "man up", or that I should vote for whatever party they were shilling for. But hey, that's just me.
- Dalewyn 2y ago
  The difference is whether the criticism is warranted. Puerto Rico is undeniably not in a good spot and the joke was taking a shot at that. If someone makes a baseless joke then they aren't worth the time of day, I agree with that. To expand on the hypothetical question: Japan has a literal garbage island (it's an artificial island used as a landfill). We call it Dream Island (Yume no Shima) because of the irony. Further reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yumenoshima https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yumenoshima

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aguaviva 2y ago

Hmm -- if someone threw that comment at my direction, I'd just assume they were a complete idiot, and not worth a further second of my time. I certainly wouldn't take it as a cue that I need to "man up", or that I should vote for whatever party they were shilling for. But hey, that's just me.

Dalewyn 2y ago
The difference is whether the criticism is warranted. Puerto Rico is undeniably not in a good spot and the joke was taking a shot at that. If someone makes a baseless joke then they aren't worth the time of day, I agree with that. To expand on the hypothetical question: Japan has a literal garbage island (it's an artificial island used as a landfill). We call it Dream Island (Yume no Shima) because of the irony. Further reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yumenoshima https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yumenoshima