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Okay, how do you attract the side that thinks you're a subhuman and deserve to be jailed at best or at worst killed?

by 0dayz 2y ago

coldtea 2y ago
The best start is by not considering them in such tremendously bullshit exagerated partisan terms as "the side that thinks you're a subhuman and deserve to be jailed at best or at worst killed"... People (and pundits) wrote such BS for 2016-2020, as they were witnessing the second coming of Hitler. In the end it was just another term. Meanwhile, the people who wrote similar things about Bush (which was a much more dystopian and bigger impact period, when citizens rights were being overturned though schemes like the Patriot Act, torture/waterboarding and such were cynically advocated and excused, and wars targeting millions and profiting few were kickstarted), now party with the Cheneys and approvingly check out photos of Bush and Obama hanging out...
- 0dayz 2y ago
  In other word: the victim is to be blamed while the perputator is innocent and just had to do it. We could show you literal proof of Maga people asking "when do we get to use the guns"[1] and you will find some bizarre excuse. [1] https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2021/10/27/when-do-we-get-use-guns-tpusa-owns-and-others-too/8570812002/ https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/...
  - coldtea 2y ago
    And I can show a few mass shootings by deranged people on the other side, hundrends of thousands of social media posts about beating up republicans and even straight advocating murder, not to mention a couple of actual assasination attempts of an ex-President presidential candidate. I guess that's not "literal proof", some loonie asking bullshit is...
    - 0dayz 2y ago
      There's not a single mass shooting that had been done by democrats explicitly due to wanting to kill republicans. >hundrends of thousands of social media posts about beating up Republicans and straight advocating murder Regurgitating the same clip a million times doesn't make that a million incidents. >not to mention a couple of actual assasination attempts of an ex-President presidential candidate. Pure bullshit unless you're going to dig up Lincoln being assassinated. At least you could stop lying and stop victim blame and for once take some responsibility and accountability, instead you just cope by both siding it.
      - themaninthedark 2y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_baseball_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_baseball_shootin... >On June 14, 2017, a mass shooting occurred during a practice session for the annual Congressional Baseball Game >Hodgkinson was a left-wing activist with a record of domestic violence from Belleville, Illinois,[11][12] while Scalise was a Republican Party member of Congress. The Virginia Attorney General concluded Hodgkinson's attack was "an act of terrorism ... fueled by rage against Republican legislators."
        0dayz 2y ago
        Touchè, I had forgotten about that incident, so there had been one.
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ericmcer 2y ago
How to attract the other side? Bernie Sanders said it best: "It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them." Dems needed to recognize that most people are self-interested and will become more so as hardships increase, and hardships have definitely increased since 2020. And minority groups yelling in fear online need to recognize that showing interest in the average working American doesn't mean you want to jail or kill those minority groups. So sorry if you think Republicans want to jail and kill you, but the reality is people are suffering and they chose the party that was showing the most interest in the average working American. I am pretty confident 90% of Trump voters would swap him for Vance or any other more cogent human who was championing workers rights.
- 0dayz 2y ago
  I have never asked anything about attracting the average voter or the working class, because that's already something that anyone wants to do. >Dems needed to recognize that most people are self-interested and will become more so as hardships increase, and hardships have definitely increased since 2020. Their perceived hardship perhaps, inflation, unemployment has gone down and even wages have gone up since 2020. >And minority groups yelling in fear online need to recognize that showing interest in the average working American doesn't mean you want to jail or kill those minority groups. I have no clue what this "minority" is? Democrats? Because I can tell you already it ain't them who is saying that maga cultists wants to kill Democrats, it's literally the maga cultists themselves[1]. >So sorry if you think Republicans want to jail and kill you, but the reality is people are suffering and they chose the party that was showing the most interest in the average working American. I am pretty confident 90% of Trump voters would swap him for Vance or any other more cogent human who was championing workers rights. It's not a matter of think, it's a matter of actual probability being higher than a fever dream. If you genuinely believe one should vote for a person that is going to try to make themselves a damn king/dictator, then I want you to also say that you think it was fine for the Germans to vote in Hitler because they unlike Americans had actual real economic problems (2700% inflation compared to 2.4%, 24% unemployment vs 4.1%). [1]https://eu.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2021/10/27/when-do-we-get-use-guns-tpusa-owns-and-others-too/8570812002/ https://eu.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2...
webninja 2y ago
IDK, they really hate men but somehow need their vote to win.
- 0dayz 2y ago
  "really hate men" in what way do the democrats hate men and does that justify voting for a party who have people openly calling them degenerate, who have people advocating murdering democrats?
  - webninja 2y ago
    I think you’re being part of the problem. The problem is vilifying half the country — driving people apart instead of bringing us all together. Those last two inflammatory conjectures in your comment are simply not true. It sure takes putting your head deep in the sand or doing a bunch of mental backflips to arrive at that conclusion. Just look at the blood that came out of Trump’s ear to easily refute that point as well as the second assassination attempt. The left was supposed to realize at those moments to tone down the rhetoric. But there’s a bunch of globalists that just want to see America burn. I’m in the middle of it all. Not right or left. No party affiliation and I have more left leaning views than right views. I simply try to pick the best candidate each election, irrespective of the party. These parties have changed so much that they’re unrecognizable from what they used to be. I recognize that the left is so terrified of someone shaking up their world view with the real truth that they lash out like a venomous snake afraid of the truth and god forbid actually seeing the other perspective. That pushes all of the moderates to the right side. The moderates and the independents decide all of the elections. Probably because we’re able to see through the smoke & mirrors and see the truth. The truth is you care more about not getting cancelled or hurt than you care about the country or the results of the election and for that reason, you’ll only make a good decision at the polls about half of the time. Like a broken clock that’s correct twice a day and incorrect all of the rest of the time. I’ll leave you with one main view, and if you forget everything else and remember this one thing, maybe you’ll have a chance at being a part of both parties one day. The right-leaning party of 2024, the big tent party, today, is just the party of the people that want the ability to perhaps have a family in the future — or already has a family. Period. Full stop. They perceive the self-loathing left as actively assaulting their work to put food on the table, keep a roof over their head, and give their kid an actual chance in this world to possibly eventually have a kid of his or her own. Stop vilifying those people. They feel bad for the left for being deeply brainwashed and mentally-manipulated by powers stronger than them. Why are all of the latest policies globalists first and Americans last? Why are all of the companies instituting mass layoffs? Should all of America have as much crime as Oakland, Chicago, New York City, L.A., and Portland? How come today, the left is the party of war and the right the party of peace? The left identifies with the Bushs and Cheneys while the right identifies with the Kennedys. Why didn’t we cut funding for further gain of function research after COVID-19 after it escaped the formerly BSL2 lab at the wuhan institute of Virology? What all was in The Twitter Files? What is the Deep State and why do we still have one? Who was a threat to democracy? (in the Republic)? Do you remember participating in any primary election? Should America continue having large amounts of illegal immigration or should there be more legal immigration? We all know how Miami and Texas voted. How come Detroit Michigan still has lead in their water and there are superfund sites all over America still? The only environmental policy the left today embraced is global warming. How come the only freedoms being advocated for are the freedoms to turn gay, become trans, and then preorder your suicide pod from the next Dr. Kevorkian! But at least you can abort your kid and not need an ID when you vote! Lol I’m pro-choice but can you see how the masses would find these solutions to their problems… distasteful? Are you really improving women’s lives by becoming the party of Islam? Or is that talk about women just propaganda and lip service? Are pro-Palestine flags virtue signaling or do they advocate Hitler-level genocide as their supporters chant “from the river to the sea” as they aim to wipe an entire group people off the map? Out of all of the things the left-leaning NPR can talk about, why did they give an “From to the river to the sea” advocate the microphone? Is NPR where we want our tax dollars to continue going to? Nowadays, the left in government gets called bad names, a vampire squid that sucks the democratic republic’s treasury bone dry. Other times, a death cult. There’s a reason the right is always more welcoming of the left than the left is of the right. There is a reason the right, this election cycle, was willing to have those open debates and go on the most podcasts & talk shows and have the tough discussions. The campaign strategy of the Trump & Vance campaign was to go on so many podcasts that they were uncensorable by the legacy media. As we all know, their campaign strategy worked and people were able to hear both sides. A campaign running on emotions like “Joy” vs. a better economy that benefits all. If you want to learn more, don’t debate me. Listen to an episode of Tucker Carlson, Charlie Kirk, or David Sacks instead.

Okay, how do you attract the side that thinks you're a subhuman and deserve to be jailed at best or at worst killed?

by 0dayz 2y ago

Okay, how do you attract the side that thinks you're a subhuman and deserve to be jailed at best or at worst killed?

The best start is by not considering them in such tremendously bullshit exagerated partisan terms as "the side that thinks you're a subhuman and deserve to be jailed at best or at worst killed"... People (and pundits) wrote such BS for 2016-2020, as they were witnessing the second coming of Hitler. In the end it was just another term. Meanwhile, the people who wrote similar things about Bush (which was a much more dystopian and bigger impact period, when citizens rights were being overturned though schemes like the Patriot Act, torture/waterboarding and such were cynically advocated and excused, and wars targeting millions and profiting few were kickstarted), now party with the Cheneys and approvingly check out photos of Bush and Obama hanging out...

0dayz 2y ago
In other word: the victim is to be blamed while the perputator is innocent and just had to do it. We could show you literal proof of Maga people asking "when do we get to use the guns"[1] and you will find some bizarre excuse. [1] https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2021/10/27/when-do-we-get-use-guns-tpusa-owns-and-others-too/8570812002/ https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/...
- coldtea 2y ago
  And I can show a few mass shootings by deranged people on the other side, hundrends of thousands of social media posts about beating up republicans and even straight advocating murder, not to mention a couple of actual assasination attempts of an ex-President presidential candidate. I guess that's not "literal proof", some loonie asking bullshit is...
  - 0dayz 2y ago
    There's not a single mass shooting that had been done by democrats explicitly due to wanting to kill republicans. >hundrends of thousands of social media posts about beating up Republicans and straight advocating murder Regurgitating the same clip a million times doesn't make that a million incidents. >not to mention a couple of actual assasination attempts of an ex-President presidential candidate. Pure bullshit unless you're going to dig up Lincoln being assassinated. At least you could stop lying and stop victim blame and for once take some responsibility and accountability, instead you just cope by both siding it.
    - themaninthedark 2y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_baseball_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_baseball_shootin... >On June 14, 2017, a mass shooting occurred during a practice session for the annual Congressional Baseball Game >Hodgkinson was a left-wing activist with a record of domestic violence from Belleville, Illinois,[11][12] while Scalise was a Republican Party member of Congress. The Virginia Attorney General concluded Hodgkinson's attack was "an act of terrorism ... fueled by rage against Republican legislators."
      - 0dayz 2y ago
        Touchè, I had forgotten about that incident, so there had been one.

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ericmcer 2y ago

How to attract the other side? Bernie Sanders said it best: "It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them." Dems needed to recognize that most people are self-interested and will become more so as hardships increase, and hardships have definitely increased since 2020. And minority groups yelling in fear online need to recognize that showing interest in the average working American doesn't mean you want to jail or kill those minority groups. So sorry if you think Republicans want to jail and kill you, but the reality is people are suffering and they chose the party that was showing the most interest in the average working American. I am pretty confident 90% of Trump voters would swap him for Vance or any other more cogent human who was championing workers rights.

0dayz 2y ago
I have never asked anything about attracting the average voter or the working class, because that's already something that anyone wants to do. >Dems needed to recognize that most people are self-interested and will become more so as hardships increase, and hardships have definitely increased since 2020. Their perceived hardship perhaps, inflation, unemployment has gone down and even wages have gone up since 2020. >And minority groups yelling in fear online need to recognize that showing interest in the average working American doesn't mean you want to jail or kill those minority groups. I have no clue what this "minority" is? Democrats? Because I can tell you already it ain't them who is saying that maga cultists wants to kill Democrats, it's literally the maga cultists themselves[1]. >So sorry if you think Republicans want to jail and kill you, but the reality is people are suffering and they chose the party that was showing the most interest in the average working American. I am pretty confident 90% of Trump voters would swap him for Vance or any other more cogent human who was championing workers rights. It's not a matter of think, it's a matter of actual probability being higher than a fever dream. If you genuinely believe one should vote for a person that is going to try to make themselves a damn king/dictator, then I want you to also say that you think it was fine for the Germans to vote in Hitler because they unlike Americans had actual real economic problems (2700% inflation compared to 2.4%, 24% unemployment vs 4.1%). [1]https://eu.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2021/10/27/when-do-we-get-use-guns-tpusa-owns-and-others-too/8570812002/ https://eu.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2...

webninja 2y ago

IDK, they really hate men but somehow need their vote to win.

0dayz 2y ago
"really hate men" in what way do the democrats hate men and does that justify voting for a party who have people openly calling them degenerate, who have people advocating murdering democrats?
- webninja 2y ago
  I think you’re being part of the problem. The problem is vilifying half the country — driving people apart instead of bringing us all together. Those last two inflammatory conjectures in your comment are simply not true. It sure takes putting your head deep in the sand or doing a bunch of mental backflips to arrive at that conclusion. Just look at the blood that came out of Trump’s ear to easily refute that point as well as the second assassination attempt. The left was supposed to realize at those moments to tone down the rhetoric. But there’s a bunch of globalists that just want to see America burn. I’m in the middle of it all. Not right or left. No party affiliation and I have more left leaning views than right views. I simply try to pick the best candidate each election, irrespective of the party. These parties have changed so much that they’re unrecognizable from what they used to be. I recognize that the left is so terrified of someone shaking up their world view with the real truth that they lash out like a venomous snake afraid of the truth and god forbid actually seeing the other perspective. That pushes all of the moderates to the right side. The moderates and the independents decide all of the elections. Probably because we’re able to see through the smoke & mirrors and see the truth. The truth is you care more about not getting cancelled or hurt than you care about the country or the results of the election and for that reason, you’ll only make a good decision at the polls about half of the time. Like a broken clock that’s correct twice a day and incorrect all of the rest of the time. I’ll leave you with one main view, and if you forget everything else and remember this one thing, maybe you’ll have a chance at being a part of both parties one day. The right-leaning party of 2024, the big tent party, today, is just the party of the people that want the ability to perhaps have a family in the future — or already has a family. Period. Full stop. They perceive the self-loathing left as actively assaulting their work to put food on the table, keep a roof over their head, and give their kid an actual chance in this world to possibly eventually have a kid of his or her own. Stop vilifying those people. They feel bad for the left for being deeply brainwashed and mentally-manipulated by powers stronger than them. Why are all of the latest policies globalists first and Americans last? Why are all of the companies instituting mass layoffs? Should all of America have as much crime as Oakland, Chicago, New York City, L.A., and Portland? How come today, the left is the party of war and the right the party of peace? The left identifies with the Bushs and Cheneys while the right identifies with the Kennedys. Why didn’t we cut funding for further gain of function research after COVID-19 after it escaped the formerly BSL2 lab at the wuhan institute of Virology? What all was in The Twitter Files? What is the Deep State and why do we still have one? Who was a threat to democracy? (in the Republic)? Do you remember participating in any primary election? Should America continue having large amounts of illegal immigration or should there be more legal immigration? We all know how Miami and Texas voted. How come Detroit Michigan still has lead in their water and there are superfund sites all over America still? The only environmental policy the left today embraced is global warming. How come the only freedoms being advocated for are the freedoms to turn gay, become trans, and then preorder your suicide pod from the next Dr. Kevorkian! But at least you can abort your kid and not need an ID when you vote! Lol I’m pro-choice but can you see how the masses would find these solutions to their problems… distasteful? Are you really improving women’s lives by becoming the party of Islam? Or is that talk about women just propaganda and lip service? Are pro-Palestine flags virtue signaling or do they advocate Hitler-level genocide as their supporters chant “from the river to the sea” as they aim to wipe an entire group people off the map? Out of all of the things the left-leaning NPR can talk about, why did they give an “From to the river to the sea” advocate the microphone? Is NPR where we want our tax dollars to continue going to? Nowadays, the left in government gets called bad names, a vampire squid that sucks the democratic republic’s treasury bone dry. Other times, a death cult. There’s a reason the right is always more welcoming of the left than the left is of the right. There is a reason the right, this election cycle, was willing to have those open debates and go on the most podcasts & talk shows and have the tough discussions. The campaign strategy of the Trump & Vance campaign was to go on so many podcasts that they were uncensorable by the legacy media. As we all know, their campaign strategy worked and people were able to hear both sides. A campaign running on emotions like “Joy” vs. a better economy that benefits all. If you want to learn more, don’t debate me. Listen to an episode of Tucker Carlson, Charlie Kirk, or David Sacks instead.