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A mod that turns TI-84 calculators into GPT-based cheating device

50 points by sschueller 2y ago

cjonas 2y ago
By the time you've figured out how to install and run this, you've probably learned more than the class your cheating in had to offer.
- CGamesPlay 2y ago
  At least, the one techy guy selling them to the other students has.
- ZitchDog 2y ago
  This is what happened to me in middle school. I wrote a bunch of programs to “help” me with algebra II tests and ended up inadvertently learning an insanely marketable skill in the process.
  - edm0nd 2y ago
    Same but high school. I ended up porting the Drug Warz game onto my TI calculator and playing it while in class instead. Now some ~23 years later I'm a python wizard.
  - sebazzz 2y ago
    Similar story here. I wrote programs in TI-Basic to help with some exam questions, and wrote summaries in TI NoteFlio. I ended up getting so many few-euro donations for them from everyone who used them. 30 minutes before the exams, exchanging these things over the TI-link connection. Of course, nowadays all these TI calculators have exam mode, which blocks the internal memory and a bright LED to indicate this mode is enabled. And the older calculators, with practically the same feature-set (TI-83, TI-84) are now forbidden (should clarify still the same TI-8x calculators are allowed - but only if they have exam mode). Nothing is fun anymore these days.
- PhasmaFelis 2y ago
  I vaguely recall some children's book in which the protagonists spent hours and hours poring over their math textbooks and copying all the important things onto hidden cheatsheets, only to realize--to their horror--that they'd actually studied after all.
trescenzi 2y ago
This brings back memories of writing hundreds of lines of TI Basic to cheat on chem tests. My most complex program could tell you the shape of atomic orbitals. I wonder if it’s still on the calculator.
- naet 2y ago
  I wrote a program in high school for my calculator to balance chemical equations. Ran the idea by my teacher and he said if I could make it myself I could use it. Probably was more work for me in the long run than just studying equation balancing, but I did get it working well and then had access to it for my AP Chem test. Did some others I don't remember as well, definitely some physics, some trigonometry and other convenience functions for math, etc. I didn't have the cable to plug it into a computer and it was pretty annoying typing it all using the calculator keys, but it was my first experience with programming and I did end up making some stuff that was personally useful for my classes. I wonder if my old calculator still has all the programs I did in memory too. Not sure if it still works, since it was over ten years ago, but I'm pretty sure I have it in a closet box and saw it when I moved last.
- xigoi 2y ago
  How did you not learn how to calculate orbitals yourself in the process of writing the program?
triyambakam 2y ago
Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41550907 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41550907
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gzer0 2y ago
Students will need to take their exams inside of a Faraday cage at this point. Oh wait, even that isn't enough [1][2]. [1] https://x.com/josephfcox/status/1854618571231408237 https://x.com/josephfcox/status/1854618571231408237 [2] https://www.404media.co/police-freak-out-at-iphones-mysteriously-rebooting-themselves-locking-cops-out/ https://www.404media.co/police-freak-out-at-iphones-mysterio...
gxonatano 2y ago
If students would put the same amount of effort into learning as they do into cheating, they wouldn't be ignorant as well as morally bankrupt.
ingen0s 2y ago
Next level awesome

50 points by sschueller 2y ago

By the time you've figured out how to install and run this, you've probably learned more than the class your cheating in had to offer.

CGamesPlay 2y ago
At least, the one techy guy selling them to the other students has.
ZitchDog 2y ago
This is what happened to me in middle school. I wrote a bunch of programs to “help” me with algebra II tests and ended up inadvertently learning an insanely marketable skill in the process.
- edm0nd 2y ago
  Same but high school. I ended up porting the Drug Warz game onto my TI calculator and playing it while in class instead. Now some ~23 years later I'm a python wizard.
- sebazzz 2y ago
  Similar story here. I wrote programs in TI-Basic to help with some exam questions, and wrote summaries in TI NoteFlio. I ended up getting so many few-euro donations for them from everyone who used them. 30 minutes before the exams, exchanging these things over the TI-link connection. Of course, nowadays all these TI calculators have exam mode, which blocks the internal memory and a bright LED to indicate this mode is enabled. And the older calculators, with practically the same feature-set (TI-83, TI-84) are now forbidden (should clarify still the same TI-8x calculators are allowed - but only if they have exam mode). Nothing is fun anymore these days.
PhasmaFelis 2y ago
I vaguely recall some children's book in which the protagonists spent hours and hours poring over their math textbooks and copying all the important things onto hidden cheatsheets, only to realize--to their horror--that they'd actually studied after all.

trescenzi 2y ago

This brings back memories of writing hundreds of lines of TI Basic to cheat on chem tests. My most complex program could tell you the shape of atomic orbitals. I wonder if it’s still on the calculator.

naet 2y ago
I wrote a program in high school for my calculator to balance chemical equations. Ran the idea by my teacher and he said if I could make it myself I could use it. Probably was more work for me in the long run than just studying equation balancing, but I did get it working well and then had access to it for my AP Chem test. Did some others I don't remember as well, definitely some physics, some trigonometry and other convenience functions for math, etc. I didn't have the cable to plug it into a computer and it was pretty annoying typing it all using the calculator keys, but it was my first experience with programming and I did end up making some stuff that was personally useful for my classes. I wonder if my old calculator still has all the programs I did in memory too. Not sure if it still works, since it was over ten years ago, but I'm pretty sure I have it in a closet box and saw it when I moved last.
xigoi 2y ago
How did you not learn how to calculate orbitals yourself in the process of writing the program?

triyambakam 2y ago

Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41550907 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41550907

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gzer0 2y ago

Students will need to take their exams inside of a Faraday cage at this point. Oh wait, even that isn't enough [1][2]. [1] https://x.com/josephfcox/status/1854618571231408237 https://x.com/josephfcox/status/1854618571231408237 [2] https://www.404media.co/police-freak-out-at-iphones-mysteriously-rebooting-themselves-locking-cops-out/ https://www.404media.co/police-freak-out-at-iphones-mysterio...

gxonatano 2y ago

If students would put the same amount of effort into learning as they do into cheating, they wouldn't be ignorant as well as morally bankrupt.

ingen0s 2y ago

Next level awesome