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> Apple really did not have to make Rosetta 2 available for Linux. The kinda did - offering good Linux dev environments is now a fairly big feature for both of

> Apple really did not have to make Rosetta 2 available for Linux. The kinda did - offering good Linux dev environments is now a fairly big feature for both of the major Desktop OS's nowadays.

pjmlp 2y ago
And the only way Desktop Linux will actually grow beyond the usual 1%.
- ChocolateGod 2y ago
  I don't think it counts as Desktop Linux if its running in a CLI-only VM targeted at developers on a different host OS.
  - cassianoleal 2y ago
    It works on GUI VMs as well. UTM makes it very easy to use. I agree it still doesn't help much with the desktop Linux bit though. :D
  - pjmlp 2y ago
    It may not count, but that is what you will get in most shopping malls as "Desktop Linux" for common folks. Even if you add Chromebooks as third option, Crostini runs in a VM just like WSL 2, and still has quite a few integration issues to this day. Netbooks could have been it, but first they were torpedoed with Microsoft's clever move to make Windows XP licenses free for those OEMs, followed by the introduction and wide adoptions of tablets. OEMs like Tuxedo or System 76 will remain a niche compared to how many people end up running GNU/Linux on desktop VMs. Before WSL I had long moved away from dual boot into VMWare Workstation.
  - the8472 2y ago
    WSL runs GUIs too. And so did things like vmware and virtualbox for many years before it.
- anonzzzies 2y ago
  https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide so 6%+ then :)
- arghwhat 2y ago
  Which, to be fair, is something like tens of millions of Linux desktops. Several orders of magnitude less than the other types of Linux-powered computers out there though. No one cares what the relative numbers are. As long as there is enough absolute users to justify the effort.
  - pjmlp 2y ago
    Yeah, but those other ones don't run GNU/Linux for normies, which was the whole premise of The Year of Linux Desktop meme started on the last century.
commandersaki 2y ago
Most Linux dev environments do not need to be tied down to Intel. In fact it is more performant and efficient if you're working on ARM native on Linux. It was already a good Linux dev env before Rosetta 2 was on the scene, they just enabled more use cases with Rosetta 2.
- iforgotmysocks 2y ago
  I also do not see much need for Rosetta support for Linux as arm64 Linux works fine for most of my use cases. However it is definitely better to have Rosetta support than not having it.
- arghwhat 2y ago
  This unfortunately only holds when working purely on open source. Shipped binaries for aarch64 are still not super common for proprietary things within the enterprise space.
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> Apple really did not have to make Rosetta 2 available for Linux. The kinda did - offering good Linux dev environments is now a fairly big feature for both of the major Desktop OS's nowadays.

pjmlp 2y ago

And the only way Desktop Linux will actually grow beyond the usual 1%.

ChocolateGod 2y ago
I don't think it counts as Desktop Linux if its running in a CLI-only VM targeted at developers on a different host OS.
- cassianoleal 2y ago
  It works on GUI VMs as well. UTM makes it very easy to use. I agree it still doesn't help much with the desktop Linux bit though. :D
- pjmlp 2y ago
  It may not count, but that is what you will get in most shopping malls as "Desktop Linux" for common folks. Even if you add Chromebooks as third option, Crostini runs in a VM just like WSL 2, and still has quite a few integration issues to this day. Netbooks could have been it, but first they were torpedoed with Microsoft's clever move to make Windows XP licenses free for those OEMs, followed by the introduction and wide adoptions of tablets. OEMs like Tuxedo or System 76 will remain a niche compared to how many people end up running GNU/Linux on desktop VMs. Before WSL I had long moved away from dual boot into VMWare Workstation.
- the8472 2y ago
  WSL runs GUIs too. And so did things like vmware and virtualbox for many years before it.
anonzzzies 2y ago
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide so 6%+ then :)
arghwhat 2y ago
Which, to be fair, is something like tens of millions of Linux desktops. Several orders of magnitude less than the other types of Linux-powered computers out there though. No one cares what the relative numbers are. As long as there is enough absolute users to justify the effort.
- pjmlp 2y ago
  Yeah, but those other ones don't run GNU/Linux for normies, which was the whole premise of The Year of Linux Desktop meme started on the last century.

commandersaki 2y ago

Most Linux dev environments do not need to be tied down to Intel. In fact it is more performant and efficient if you're working on ARM native on Linux. It was already a good Linux dev env before Rosetta 2 was on the scene, they just enabled more use cases with Rosetta 2.

iforgotmysocks 2y ago
I also do not see much need for Rosetta support for Linux as arm64 Linux works fine for most of my use cases. However it is definitely better to have Rosetta support than not having it.
arghwhat 2y ago
This unfortunately only holds when working purely on open source. Shipped binaries for aarch64 are still not super common for proprietary things within the enterprise space.

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