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Sure, there were many mistakes made by the Democrats' campaign. In your examples, the problem is not that the explanations are simple, but rather that they are

Sure, there were many mistakes made by the Democrats' campaign. In your examples, the problem is not that the explanations are simple, but rather that they are obviously wrong. EDIT: For fun, let's contrast the attitude of each campaign to its detractors. The Democrats say that people who oppose their strategies are dumb. The Republicans say that people who oppose their strategies are Communist pedophiles who want to destroy America.

tarsinge 2y ago
I don’t disagree, but regarding your edit I’m not saying Republicans are not (way) worse, but that I’m hugely disappointed at Democrats. My hope was that instead of taking inspiration from Republicans they would lead an other way.
- hackyhacky 2y ago
  > My hope was that instead of taking inspiration from Republicans they would lead an other way. Me too. The Democrats need a better story, a narrative that people can engage with emotionally.
valval 2y ago
Amazing the cognitive dissonance. Democrats say that people who oppose their strategies are racist, sexist, xenophobic, dumb, fascist, nazi, you name it. Republicans say that people who oppose their strategies are racist, sexist, xenophobic, dumb, fascist, and nazi.
- hackyhacky 2y ago
  > Democrats say that people who oppose their strategies are racist, sexist, xenophobic, dumb, fascist, nazi, you name it. > Republicans say that people who oppose their strategies are racist, sexist, xenophobic, dumb, fascist, and nazi. Only one of their statements is accurate. Not all opinions are equally valid.
stcroixx 2y ago
What many heard the Democrats say was that if you oppose their policies you're not only dumb, you're also a racist, misogynist, fascist, nazi, and a threat to democracy.
- insane_dreamer 2y ago
  That was never said. What was said, repeatedly, is that _Trump_ is a racist, misogynist, has fascist and nazi tendencies, and is a threat to democracy. All of which is true. Ask his former chief of staff. I disagree with most GOP policies, but don't have an issue with people voting Republican -- I would have been okay with someone like Romney or McCain as president; I could probably even handle pre-MAGA DeSantis (wouldn't be happy but whatever, we'll live). But if people are voting for _Trump_ specifically, then either they hold the same values as Trump, or they're willing to sell out their values for a promise of cheap gas (that they aren't even going to get!). Either way it's pretty bad.
  - xp84 2y ago
    Multiple people on my social networks were saying something along the lines of "If you are voting for Trump, unfriend me because you're dead to me and I don't even want to talk to you about it." Notably I didn't see anything like this coming from the Trump fans. This is because those who have remained inside the Democratic Party have become so indoctrinated that the opinions of the Progressive Left are factual that they now see this as not disagreements, but a religious war. And they're coming unglued now this week because they used to believe that having the popular vote on their side for years meant that their Correct Side was being oppressed because of a malfunctioning democracy. This week, suddenly they have to either admit that they don't really care about democracy as much as their pet ideologies, or that their ideas are radical and unpopular because they're bad.
    - hackyhacky 2y ago
      I'm glad that your conservative friends are so tolerant, but mine aren't. Plenty of conservatives have no problem calling liberals Satanist, anti-American, pedophiles. Just look around. It didn't used to be like this. The tone of politics changed when name-calling, bullying, and hate became part of campaigning. The country is divided, and the source of the vitriol is one man.

tarsinge 2y ago

I don’t disagree, but regarding your edit I’m not saying Republicans are not (way) worse, but that I’m hugely disappointed at Democrats. My hope was that instead of taking inspiration from Republicans they would lead an other way.

hackyhacky 2y ago
> My hope was that instead of taking inspiration from Republicans they would lead an other way. Me too. The Democrats need a better story, a narrative that people can engage with emotionally.

valval 2y ago

Amazing the cognitive dissonance. Democrats say that people who oppose their strategies are racist, sexist, xenophobic, dumb, fascist, nazi, you name it. Republicans say that people who oppose their strategies are racist, sexist, xenophobic, dumb, fascist, and nazi.

hackyhacky 2y ago
> Democrats say that people who oppose their strategies are racist, sexist, xenophobic, dumb, fascist, nazi, you name it. > Republicans say that people who oppose their strategies are racist, sexist, xenophobic, dumb, fascist, and nazi. Only one of their statements is accurate. Not all opinions are equally valid.

stcroixx 2y ago

What many heard the Democrats say was that if you oppose their policies you're not only dumb, you're also a racist, misogynist, fascist, nazi, and a threat to democracy.

insane_dreamer 2y ago
That was never said. What was said, repeatedly, is that _Trump_ is a racist, misogynist, has fascist and nazi tendencies, and is a threat to democracy. All of which is true. Ask his former chief of staff. I disagree with most GOP policies, but don't have an issue with people voting Republican -- I would have been okay with someone like Romney or McCain as president; I could probably even handle pre-MAGA DeSantis (wouldn't be happy but whatever, we'll live). But if people are voting for _Trump_ specifically, then either they hold the same values as Trump, or they're willing to sell out their values for a promise of cheap gas (that they aren't even going to get!). Either way it's pretty bad.
- xp84 2y ago
  Multiple people on my social networks were saying something along the lines of "If you are voting for Trump, unfriend me because you're dead to me and I don't even want to talk to you about it." Notably I didn't see anything like this coming from the Trump fans. This is because those who have remained inside the Democratic Party have become so indoctrinated that the opinions of the Progressive Left are factual that they now see this as not disagreements, but a religious war. And they're coming unglued now this week because they used to believe that having the popular vote on their side for years meant that their Correct Side was being oppressed because of a malfunctioning democracy. This week, suddenly they have to either admit that they don't really care about democracy as much as their pet ideologies, or that their ideas are radical and unpopular because they're bad.
  - hackyhacky 2y ago
    I'm glad that your conservative friends are so tolerant, but mine aren't. Plenty of conservatives have no problem calling liberals Satanist, anti-American, pedophiles. Just look around. It didn't used to be like this. The tone of politics changed when name-calling, bullying, and hate became part of campaigning. The country is divided, and the source of the vitriol is one man.