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a non-zero amount of censorship is unavoidable in a social media platform. when nation state A is in control of the censorship of social media platform Z, and

a non-zero amount of censorship is unavoidable in a social media platform. when nation state A is in control of the censorship of social media platform Z, and designs the censorship of that platform to intentionally hurt nation state B by causing division amongst the citizens of nation state B, then nation state B has every right to ban social media platform Z.

logicchains 2y ago
>designs the censorship of that platform to intentionally hurt nation state B by causing division amongst the citizens of nation state B If the division is a result of the platform exposing people in that nation to information that they previously didn't have access to, due to the government censoring it, then it's absolutely a good thing for the people of the nation. The government of the nation state can get fucked when its interests go against the interests of its people. A divided people is a much better thing than a people united by ignorance and belief in falsehood.
- lazystar 2y ago
  but thats not what nation state A is doing - differing amounts of information is selectively made available to different groups of citizens in nation state B, purely to sow discord when those two groups of citizens interact.
  - aprilthird2021 2y ago
    But it doesn't matter what the intent is. The intent behind many types of publishing and media can be malicious. The ability to publish that media and the ability of Americans to consume that media is protected free speech
RobotToaster 2y ago
So if the censorship on Facebook is designed to hurt China, they have every right to ban facebook?
- sham1 2y ago
  I mean, China has banned Facebook. It may or may not be due to that stated reason, but it's nevertheless banned.
- lazystar 2y ago
  yes, of course
- troyvit 2y ago
  Apparently they do, so yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_mainland_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_ma...
  - insane_dreamer 2y ago
    But that’s not why they banned it. They banned it because FB refused to submit to the CPC’s censorship.

logicchains 2y ago

>designs the censorship of that platform to intentionally hurt nation state B by causing division amongst the citizens of nation state B If the division is a result of the platform exposing people in that nation to information that they previously didn't have access to, due to the government censoring it, then it's absolutely a good thing for the people of the nation. The government of the nation state can get fucked when its interests go against the interests of its people. A divided people is a much better thing than a people united by ignorance and belief in falsehood.

lazystar 2y ago
but thats not what nation state A is doing - differing amounts of information is selectively made available to different groups of citizens in nation state B, purely to sow discord when those two groups of citizens interact.
- aprilthird2021 2y ago
  But it doesn't matter what the intent is. The intent behind many types of publishing and media can be malicious. The ability to publish that media and the ability of Americans to consume that media is protected free speech

RobotToaster 2y ago

So if the censorship on Facebook is designed to hurt China, they have every right to ban facebook?

sham1 2y ago
I mean, China has banned Facebook. It may or may not be due to that stated reason, but it's nevertheless banned.
lazystar 2y ago
yes, of course
troyvit 2y ago
Apparently they do, so yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_mainland_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_ma...
- insane_dreamer 2y ago
  But that’s not why they banned it. They banned it because FB refused to submit to the CPC’s censorship.