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The majority of Canadians share the majority of Americans' view of the Middle East. The majority of Canadians share the majority of Americans' view of China.

forgotoldacc 2y ago
Which gives us a cyclical problem. Do they share those views because American media has so much influence in Canada? Or does American media have influence in Canada because they Americans and Canadians have shared views? Neighbors in Asia and Europe often have completely unaligned political politics due to a language and media barrier. Even the US and everything south of Texas don't align as much as the US and Canada.
- lowdest 2y ago
  No. US and Canada share a language and have historically intermingled their populations significantly. We're the same because we have largely similar daily lives as individuals, we have similar problems, and we're populated by people of similar origins. If, for example, conditions caused our paths to diverge, an extreme example would be the split between East and West Germany, then you would expect differing views. Even prior to modern media we were very similar peoples.
  - Loic 2y ago
    Une partie du Canada ne parle pas Anglais.
    - infecto 2y ago
      Yes ~9% of the Canadian population is unable to hold a conversation in English. We are talking about the other 90%.
aprilthird2021 2y ago
Which has nothing to do with censorship on social media. Censorship is okay if it matches what people want to see? Sounds like China justifications...
- lazystar 2y ago
  some amount of censorship is unavoidable. when nation state A is in control of the censorship, and designs that censorship to intentionally hurt nation state B, then nation state B has every right to ban the platform that nation state A is using to push it's agenda.
  - logicchains 2y ago
    What matters is the people of the nation state, and censorship by their own government depriving them of information is absolutely hurting them. Government only censors people when uncensored information would cause their interests to conflict with those of the people in power.
    - corimaith 2y ago
      No information is being deprived, you can read up all you want in more detail than in TikTok. Rather it's the argument to lazily consume 2 minute bites as a replacement for in-depth study.
      - ImPostingOnHN 2y ago
        > No information is being deprived It seems censorship is indeed being conducted, as described here. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42072050 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42072050
        lazystar 2y ago
        youre ignoring my point to such a degree that it seems intentional. ill have to assume that you either work for a nation state, or you have a third grade education level.
bhouston 2y ago
> The majority of Canadians share the majority of Americans' view of the Middle East. Almost 50% of Canadians believes Israel is committing genocide in Gaza: https://www.readthemaple.com/polls-show-gap-between-canadian-public-opinion-and-parliament-on-israel/ https://www.readthemaple.com/polls-show-gap-between-canadian...
- hnbad 2y ago
  IIRC similar polling in the US led to similar results so the claim is not wrong even if the implication was likely that the majority of Americans support Israel.
balex 2y ago
Source? And what are these consensus opinions? (Honest questions)

forgotoldacc 2y ago

Which gives us a cyclical problem. Do they share those views because American media has so much influence in Canada? Or does American media have influence in Canada because they Americans and Canadians have shared views? Neighbors in Asia and Europe often have completely unaligned political politics due to a language and media barrier. Even the US and everything south of Texas don't align as much as the US and Canada.

lowdest 2y ago
No. US and Canada share a language and have historically intermingled their populations significantly. We're the same because we have largely similar daily lives as individuals, we have similar problems, and we're populated by people of similar origins. If, for example, conditions caused our paths to diverge, an extreme example would be the split between East and West Germany, then you would expect differing views. Even prior to modern media we were very similar peoples.
- Loic 2y ago
  Une partie du Canada ne parle pas Anglais.
  - infecto 2y ago
    Yes ~9% of the Canadian population is unable to hold a conversation in English. We are talking about the other 90%.

aprilthird2021 2y ago

Which has nothing to do with censorship on social media. Censorship is okay if it matches what people want to see? Sounds like China justifications...

lazystar 2y ago
some amount of censorship is unavoidable. when nation state A is in control of the censorship, and designs that censorship to intentionally hurt nation state B, then nation state B has every right to ban the platform that nation state A is using to push it's agenda.
- logicchains 2y ago
  What matters is the people of the nation state, and censorship by their own government depriving them of information is absolutely hurting them. Government only censors people when uncensored information would cause their interests to conflict with those of the people in power.
  - corimaith 2y ago
    No information is being deprived, you can read up all you want in more detail than in TikTok. Rather it's the argument to lazily consume 2 minute bites as a replacement for in-depth study.
    - ImPostingOnHN 2y ago
      > No information is being deprived It seems censorship is indeed being conducted, as described here. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42072050 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42072050
      - lazystar 2y ago
        youre ignoring my point to such a degree that it seems intentional. ill have to assume that you either work for a nation state, or you have a third grade education level.

bhouston 2y ago

> The majority of Canadians share the majority of Americans' view of the Middle East. Almost 50% of Canadians believes Israel is committing genocide in Gaza: https://www.readthemaple.com/polls-show-gap-between-canadian-public-opinion-and-parliament-on-israel/ https://www.readthemaple.com/polls-show-gap-between-canadian...

hnbad 2y ago
IIRC similar polling in the US led to similar results so the claim is not wrong even if the implication was likely that the majority of Americans support Israel.

balex 2y ago

Source? And what are these consensus opinions? (Honest questions)