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It's all signalling. Huge headphones, lotion scents, $200 meals send the right signal to the right people (target, subculture). They do look "cool", just not to

It's all signalling. Huge headphones, lotion scents, $200 meals send the right signal to the right people (target, subculture). They do look "cool", just not to you because you're not the intended recipient. Partially, you're not the intended recipient, because you don't see them as "cool".

tluyben2 14y ago
Well, $200 meals can be nice; I wouldn't call them cool, but if the food is really good, I can see you eating there. I don't see why kids would sit there all with their phones/games out and not talk during the entire meal. Or why parents would allow such a thing. But for the other things you are right; I don't get that, but I see what they are doing. So I see what you mean, and that was exactly what I meant; this guy is trying to look cool and attract the babes while he crashes into a lamppost reading his 'urgent' iPad content. That's sending a signal as well and that's what I meant. It can (and will probably) be cool to wear those glasses in the end, if not from Google, maybe from Apple or someone else.
- intended 14y ago
  Heck we have the debate on Craigslist's UI on HN every so often - ugliness won't necessarily stop a good product. Putting it this way - if it works, and is useful, enough people won't care. As long as the leading edge of the population thinks its worth using, it will have acceptance. If it enough good applications are there for it, people will flock to it.
- pavel_lishin 14y ago
  > I don't see why kids would sit there all with their phones/games out and not talk during the entire meal. Because as this thread has pointed out, $200 meals aren't cool to everyone. Those kids couldn't care less; they'd rather be socializing with their friends (on Facebook, obviously) than talking to their parents.
  - tluyben2 14y ago
    That's another way of looking at it indeed. My parents would've thrown my telephone in the toilet though. Family time = family time.

tluyben2 14y ago

Well, $200 meals can be nice; I wouldn't call them cool, but if the food is really good, I can see you eating there. I don't see why kids would sit there all with their phones/games out and not talk during the entire meal. Or why parents would allow such a thing. But for the other things you are right; I don't get that, but I see what they are doing. So I see what you mean, and that was exactly what I meant; this guy is trying to look cool and attract the babes while he crashes into a lamppost reading his 'urgent' iPad content. That's sending a signal as well and that's what I meant. It can (and will probably) be cool to wear those glasses in the end, if not from Google, maybe from Apple or someone else.

intended 14y ago
Heck we have the debate on Craigslist's UI on HN every so often - ugliness won't necessarily stop a good product. Putting it this way - if it works, and is useful, enough people won't care. As long as the leading edge of the population thinks its worth using, it will have acceptance. If it enough good applications are there for it, people will flock to it.
pavel_lishin 14y ago
> I don't see why kids would sit there all with their phones/games out and not talk during the entire meal. Because as this thread has pointed out, $200 meals aren't cool to everyone. Those kids couldn't care less; they'd rather be socializing with their friends (on Facebook, obviously) than talking to their parents.
- tluyben2 14y ago
  That's another way of looking at it indeed. My parents would've thrown my telephone in the toilet though. Family time = family time.