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Ummm... when you goto the website in the top right corner it has what I think might be a chinese flag and says 'hacked' http://www.javelinjs.com/ http://www.ja

Ummm... when you goto the website in the top right corner it has what I think might be a chinese flag and says 'hacked' http://www.javelinjs.com/ http://www.javelinjs.com/ But otherwise looks like a good effort.

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heretohelp 14y ago
https://github.com/facebook/javelin/issues/9 https://github.com/facebook/javelin/issues/9
- Irishsteve 14y ago
  Maybe it's just me, but if I wanted someone to use my software I wouldn't have 'lulz' on the main page that could scare people off. The tests link doesn't work either so I thought it was somehow related.
  - heretohelp 14y ago
    What part of >A large, bloated JS framework with an unintuitive syntax and very few features didn't your browser display? It's mostly designed for performance anyway.
    - Irishsteve 14y ago
      this bit http://www.javelinjs.com/specs/ http://www.javelinjs.com/specs/
  - ObnoxiousJul 14y ago
    You'd want to 'lulz' and be rude to avoid the hipsters. You may wish to have a little community with a better noise signal ratio, and you may use your README to scare the «serious» programmers that rely more about BS told on a website than on reading the code. Still, I am not the targeted audience for their framework. I do not like their syntax.
    - coderdude 14y ago
      This seems like some kind of bizarre/opposite logic to me. You think you'd get a better signal-to-noise ratio from the lulz crowd, and that non-'lulzy' programmers are more into (marketing?) BS than reading code? I am fascinated by this point of view.
      - ObnoxiousJul 14y ago
        Well, since CS due to good wages has attracted the hipsters that confuses their IQ with the price of their gadget, and that are in average better at communicating (with their so hype websites) than the average hectic programmers, you may want to filter them out, and make fun of them. These self called geeks and gurus are best avoided in projects. I guess the hacked by China joke is like a filter. Real programmers do it for fun. And they not only do it in few words, they also do it with 'finger'. I guess, they are just doing a cultural handshake they try to filter out the morons by sending irrelevant information on one hand (the official website), and another one on the other hand (the doc is concise and clear). For me it is a new divide in programming community: the infatuated hipsters self called geeks vs the mocking nerds. For me it is the sense of the zed shaw's rant on rails, and of the readme and sites of javelin. PS : I belong to the mocking nerds.
        coderdude 14y ago
        It sounds like you mean to imply that iOS developers and Ruby programmers are the hipsters, no? I'm not really familiar with the battle between "hipsters" and "real nerds" in the programming world. My experience has been the opposite of yours in that the lulz crowd is usually the more inexperienced group. There are more dimensions here than just two. The two groups you've described co-exist with many other kinds of programmers. For example, Linus Torvalds is not a mocking nerd or a hipster. I would imagine that many programmers do not identify with the two groups you've described. There are groups of 'serious' and talented programmers, lulzy talented programmers, lulzy hipster programmers, and every combination in between. Shades of gray, as they say.
        14y ago
  - kkowalczyk 14y ago
    "This snakeskin jacket is a symbol of my individuality and my belief in personal freedom." - from Wild@Heart. For some people expressing individuality is more important than "wanting someone to use their software".
aristus 14y ago
Evan is a special soul, with the heart of a poet and the spleen of a troll.
- hyuuu 14y ago
  I have found your sentence to be so succinct but explains a lot.
dutchbrit 14y ago
https://github.com/facebook/javelin/issues/10 https://github.com/facebook/javelin/issues/10

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heretohelp 14y ago

https://github.com/facebook/javelin/issues/9 https://github.com/facebook/javelin/issues/9

Irishsteve 14y ago
Maybe it's just me, but if I wanted someone to use my software I wouldn't have 'lulz' on the main page that could scare people off. The tests link doesn't work either so I thought it was somehow related.
- heretohelp 14y ago
  What part of >A large, bloated JS framework with an unintuitive syntax and very few features didn't your browser display? It's mostly designed for performance anyway.
  - Irishsteve 14y ago
    this bit http://www.javelinjs.com/specs/ http://www.javelinjs.com/specs/
- ObnoxiousJul 14y ago
  You'd want to 'lulz' and be rude to avoid the hipsters. You may wish to have a little community with a better noise signal ratio, and you may use your README to scare the «serious» programmers that rely more about BS told on a website than on reading the code. Still, I am not the targeted audience for their framework. I do not like their syntax.
  - coderdude 14y ago
    This seems like some kind of bizarre/opposite logic to me. You think you'd get a better signal-to-noise ratio from the lulz crowd, and that non-'lulzy' programmers are more into (marketing?) BS than reading code? I am fascinated by this point of view.
    - ObnoxiousJul 14y ago
      Well, since CS due to good wages has attracted the hipsters that confuses their IQ with the price of their gadget, and that are in average better at communicating (with their so hype websites) than the average hectic programmers, you may want to filter them out, and make fun of them. These self called geeks and gurus are best avoided in projects. I guess the hacked by China joke is like a filter. Real programmers do it for fun. And they not only do it in few words, they also do it with 'finger'. I guess, they are just doing a cultural handshake they try to filter out the morons by sending irrelevant information on one hand (the official website), and another one on the other hand (the doc is concise and clear). For me it is a new divide in programming community: the infatuated hipsters self called geeks vs the mocking nerds. For me it is the sense of the zed shaw's rant on rails, and of the readme and sites of javelin. PS : I belong to the mocking nerds.
      - coderdude 14y ago
        It sounds like you mean to imply that iOS developers and Ruby programmers are the hipsters, no? I'm not really familiar with the battle between "hipsters" and "real nerds" in the programming world. My experience has been the opposite of yours in that the lulz crowd is usually the more inexperienced group. There are more dimensions here than just two. The two groups you've described co-exist with many other kinds of programmers. For example, Linus Torvalds is not a mocking nerd or a hipster. I would imagine that many programmers do not identify with the two groups you've described. There are groups of 'serious' and talented programmers, lulzy talented programmers, lulzy hipster programmers, and every combination in between. Shades of gray, as they say.
        14y ago
- kkowalczyk 14y ago
  "This snakeskin jacket is a symbol of my individuality and my belief in personal freedom." - from Wild@Heart. For some people expressing individuality is more important than "wanting someone to use their software".

aristus 14y ago

Evan is a special soul, with the heart of a poet and the spleen of a troll.

hyuuu 14y ago
I have found your sentence to be so succinct but explains a lot.

dutchbrit 14y ago

https://github.com/facebook/javelin/issues/10 https://github.com/facebook/javelin/issues/10