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> They made a big fuss about protecting you from Facebook and Google, then built their own targeted ad network. What kind of targeting advertising am i getting

> They made a big fuss about protecting you from Facebook and Google, then built their own targeted ad network. What kind of targeting advertising am i getting from apple as a user of their products? Genuinely curious. I’ll wait. The rest of your comment may be factually accurate but it isn’t relevant for “normal” users, only those hyper aware of their privacy. Don’t get me wrong, i appreciate knowing this detail but you need to also realize that there are degrees to privacy.

talldayo 2y ago
> What kind of targeting advertising am i getting from apple as a user of their products? https://searchads.apple.com/ https://searchads.apple.com/ https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/control-how-apple-delivers-advertising-to-you-iphf60a6a256/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/control-how-apple-del... In the App Store and Apple News, your search and download history may be used to serve you relevant search ads. In Apple News and Stocks, ads are served based partly on what you read or follow. This includes publishers you’ve enabled notifications for and the type of publishing subscription you have.
- luqtas 2y ago
  so just stocks, apps and news? their hardware quality unsnarl me with their performance per watt every time i need to flee from civilization and program Java on Nepalese caves for _THREE_ days without plugging into a power outlet. i accept the compromise and their word on my data! /s
- lurking_swe 2y ago
  appreciate you engaging in the discussion in good faith. This seems pretty “boring”, but i agree it’s definitely targeting advertising.
- avianlyric 2y ago
  Not sure about anyone else, but “we may use data from you choosing to use our apps, to target ads at you in our apps” just doesn’t quite hit the same as “we’ll track your web browsing habits via rats nest of social media buttons, and tracking pixels embedded in every major website, to sell highly targeted adverts on every major website, and give indiscriminate filtering capabilities capable of filtering to populations sizes as small as 4 or 5 individuals, to anyone that pays us a few cents”.
  - talldayo 2y ago
    It's up to you. Both companies are selling ads, and both companies know personalized ads sell better. Both are mediating their ad business with total control and arguing that it's unsafe to give competitors this info despite the fact that it's totally safe for them to collect it as a first-party. And the cherry on top, both Apple and Google are unfairly abusing their dominant position as platform-holders to collect data on their users solely for a marketing advantage. Feel whichever way you want about it, but I cut Apple out of my life years ago when they made it clear service revenue was their goal. Windows became insufferable after Microsoft tried the same thing, and my time using iOS/MacOS intermittently makes me very glad I didn't invest in an equally-degraded experience.

talldayo 2y ago

> What kind of targeting advertising am i getting from apple as a user of their products? https://searchads.apple.com/ https://searchads.apple.com/ https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/control-how-apple-delivers-advertising-to-you-iphf60a6a256/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/control-how-apple-del... In the App Store and Apple News, your search and download history may be used to serve you relevant search ads. In Apple News and Stocks, ads are served based partly on what you read or follow. This includes publishers you’ve enabled notifications for and the type of publishing subscription you have.

luqtas 2y ago
so just stocks, apps and news? their hardware quality unsnarl me with their performance per watt every time i need to flee from civilization and program Java on Nepalese caves for _THREE_ days without plugging into a power outlet. i accept the compromise and their word on my data! /s
lurking_swe 2y ago
appreciate you engaging in the discussion in good faith. This seems pretty “boring”, but i agree it’s definitely targeting advertising.
avianlyric 2y ago
Not sure about anyone else, but “we may use data from you choosing to use our apps, to target ads at you in our apps” just doesn’t quite hit the same as “we’ll track your web browsing habits via rats nest of social media buttons, and tracking pixels embedded in every major website, to sell highly targeted adverts on every major website, and give indiscriminate filtering capabilities capable of filtering to populations sizes as small as 4 or 5 individuals, to anyone that pays us a few cents”.
- talldayo 2y ago
  It's up to you. Both companies are selling ads, and both companies know personalized ads sell better. Both are mediating their ad business with total control and arguing that it's unsafe to give competitors this info despite the fact that it's totally safe for them to collect it as a first-party. And the cherry on top, both Apple and Google are unfairly abusing their dominant position as platform-holders to collect data on their users solely for a marketing advantage. Feel whichever way you want about it, but I cut Apple out of my life years ago when they made it clear service revenue was their goal. Windows became insufferable after Microsoft tried the same thing, and my time using iOS/MacOS intermittently makes me very glad I didn't invest in an equally-degraded experience.