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It's funny how other states must use magic wands to fix their roads, obviously since the gas prices are not jacked up as high elsewhere.
by throw_that_away 2y ago
It's funny how other states must use magic wands to fix their roads, obviously since the gas prices are not jacked up as high elsewhere.
- arrosenberg 2y agoI don’t understand the sarcasm. Comparable states like Texas and New York charge far more in tolls than California. Many states have far fewer roads (with less usage), or they underfund their road maintenance, don’t repair them, and then rely on federal funds to make emergency repairs after something critical breaks.
- aydyn 2y agoUnderlying the sarcasm is the assertion that California is not fiscally responsible with its budget. Understand now?
- arrosenberg 2y agoNope, still don’t get it. We aren’t any more or less responsible than other states, just much bigger.
- aydyn 2y agoYou sure about that?
- arrosenberg 2y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- aydyn 2y agoSo you understood the point or would you like it explained again?
- arrosenberg 2y agoDo you have an actual explanation or just low effort memes? Read the forum guidelines, thanks!
- aydyn 2y agoThanks! So in order to make this thread more "thoughtful and substantive", underlying that posters earlier sarcasm is the belief that California is not responsible with its budget. Hope that helps this time!
- arrosenberg 2y agoOh ok, makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. Hope you feel better now :)
- aydyn 2y agoConcession noted, thanks!
- sokoloff 2y agoCalifornia is more responsible than Illinois or New Jersey, but there are plenty of states who are more responsible than CA.
- tomrod 2y agoThe tolls are 1. Used to fix toll lanes, much more prevalent now than in the past 2. Payments to private companies who siphon the proceeds out of the area they services Gas tax is much better in this regard, but all of these are pretty extortionary.
- throwaway48476 2y agoLast I checked I think 60% was getting siphoned off to an LLC and only 40% of the toll was for the road.
- AnthonyMouse 2y agoNot only that, tolls suck for privacy (de facto installation of ALPR cameras, database presumptively controlled by a private company selling the data to anyone with money), are a regressive tax on the poor, and are often used to implement "taxation without representation" by sticking the tolls near a state border to extract rents from people not eligible to vote against them. New York has even taken to explicitly charging higher rates to out of state residents, which is of questionable constitutionality.
- throwaway48476 2y agoBut think about all the poor politicians who would miss out on their kickbacks.
- hirako2000 2y agoI would like to be able to say that in Europe, tolls are managed by the state, but they aren't.
- datavirtue 2y agoDriving is a privilege. You can walk on the walking road, thingy.
- AnthonyMouse 2y ago