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Not sure he really cares about the country - but I guess you can be glad.

by roflyear 2y ago

sebzim4500 2y ago
Does that matter?
- rbanffy 2y ago
  I’m not American, but for me it would matter a lot. Not aligning with the country’s best interests is a yuge dealbreaker.
- roflyear 2y ago
  Of course, I don't want super powerful people in the US to not have the country's best interests in mind.
loceng 2y ago
He cares about freedom and the spark of consciousness, of which he requires a foundation of a strong and free country; maybe you're being perfectionistic, e.g. The Selfish Gene?
- deleted 2y ago
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- kwisatzh 2y ago
  Since when does he care about freedom? He was shadow banning content that he disliked on X, all the while boosting takes he approved of. Sure, he owns X and can do whatever he wants with it, but he doesn’t care about freedom.
- chairhairair 2y ago
  Without looking it up (honor system), please describe what you think The Selfish Gene is about.
- doublerabbit 2y ago
  Maybe it's time for you to turn off your screen, go outside and touch some grass. Musk is an egotistical megalomaniac. To even think of his ego in any positive light makes the problem with you. Calling someone a pedophile because they wouldn't use his submarine is just an example.
  - hersko 2y ago
    That warped mine is responsible for an enormous amount of innovation. Wish we had more, similarly warped minds. > Calling someone a pedophile is just one example This clearly outweighs his efforts to bring the electric vehicle, space, and humanoid robotics revolutions.
    - doublerabbit 2y ago
      I for one do not care about Mars, the science, all his expensive toys. I'm here on earth trying to make ends meat. What has his rocket done for me? Who's praising the engineers who are grinding their souls to accomplish? It's not Musk accomplishing this. He just stuck up human with money. Like all. And as an environmentalist in my spare time, why are we trying to get to some red rock of a planet than fixing the climate where we all live? He's not contributing anything to the real matter yet we are all happy to bitch about climate change and then dish out praise when we allow someone to go and frack for oil. [0][1] Sorry if it upsets you that I don't want to be under servitude of some egotistical nit. And, as well also sorry that yourself are too stuck in the fumes of fallacy of one who's causing more issues for this planet for his future for one you yourself will never reach. [0] https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/12/24219183/elon-musk-donald-trump-oil-gas-vilify-tesla-x-interview# https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/12/24219183/elon-musk-donald... [1] https://www.hartenergy.com/exclusives/elon-musk-calls-us-frackers-turn-taps-immediately-199074 https://www.hartenergy.com/exclusives/elon-musk-calls-us-fra...
      - rbanffy 2y ago
        > Who's praising the engineers who are grinding their souls to accomplish? I always credit the SpaceX team for their accomplishments, fully aware they are successful despite Musk, not because of him. He’s good at getting attention and funding.
- technothrasher 2y ago
  > e.g. The Selfish Gene? The main thesis of The Selfish Gene is that evolution is best explained by a gene-centered model, rather than an organism or species model. I'm confused what that has to do with not being a perfectionist about Musk.
HideousKojima 2y ago
Seems he cares about it a great deal, he wants to make sure America is still a country where you can innovate and explore without the state blocking you at every turn. See Arianespace for how things would look if Elon had to deal with infamous European bureaucracy and red tape, the FAA is already bad enough.
- roflyear 2y ago
  Maybe. I don't see Elon saying that much. Mostly it's politically charged crap.
  - HideousKojima 2y ago
    You should have seen his Lex Fridman interview then where he talks about exactly that and brings up things like the need to kidnap a seal (twice!), strap it to a board, and force it to listen to sonic boom noises to comply with braindeas government environmental regulations.
    - roflyear 2y ago
      I can't watch every one of these interviews
      - HideousKojima 2y ago
        Then how did you see enough of what he said to state "Maybe. I don't see Elon saying that much. Mostly it's politically charged crap."?
        roflyear 2y ago
        Because what I do see and hear of him is politically charged crap.

Not sure he really cares about the country - but I guess you can be glad.

sebzim4500 2y ago

Does that matter?

rbanffy 2y ago
I’m not American, but for me it would matter a lot. Not aligning with the country’s best interests is a yuge dealbreaker.
roflyear 2y ago
Of course, I don't want super powerful people in the US to not have the country's best interests in mind.

loceng 2y ago

He cares about freedom and the spark of consciousness, of which he requires a foundation of a strong and free country; maybe you're being perfectionistic, e.g. The Selfish Gene?

deleted 2y ago
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kwisatzh 2y ago
Since when does he care about freedom? He was shadow banning content that he disliked on X, all the while boosting takes he approved of. Sure, he owns X and can do whatever he wants with it, but he doesn’t care about freedom.
chairhairair 2y ago
Without looking it up (honor system), please describe what you think The Selfish Gene is about.
doublerabbit 2y ago
Maybe it's time for you to turn off your screen, go outside and touch some grass. Musk is an egotistical megalomaniac. To even think of his ego in any positive light makes the problem with you. Calling someone a pedophile because they wouldn't use his submarine is just an example.
- hersko 2y ago
  That warped mine is responsible for an enormous amount of innovation. Wish we had more, similarly warped minds. > Calling someone a pedophile is just one example This clearly outweighs his efforts to bring the electric vehicle, space, and humanoid robotics revolutions.
  - doublerabbit 2y ago
    I for one do not care about Mars, the science, all his expensive toys. I'm here on earth trying to make ends meat. What has his rocket done for me? Who's praising the engineers who are grinding their souls to accomplish? It's not Musk accomplishing this. He just stuck up human with money. Like all. And as an environmentalist in my spare time, why are we trying to get to some red rock of a planet than fixing the climate where we all live? He's not contributing anything to the real matter yet we are all happy to bitch about climate change and then dish out praise when we allow someone to go and frack for oil. [0][1] Sorry if it upsets you that I don't want to be under servitude of some egotistical nit. And, as well also sorry that yourself are too stuck in the fumes of fallacy of one who's causing more issues for this planet for his future for one you yourself will never reach. [0] https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/12/24219183/elon-musk-donald-trump-oil-gas-vilify-tesla-x-interview# https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/12/24219183/elon-musk-donald... [1] https://www.hartenergy.com/exclusives/elon-musk-calls-us-frackers-turn-taps-immediately-199074 https://www.hartenergy.com/exclusives/elon-musk-calls-us-fra...
    - rbanffy 2y ago
      > Who's praising the engineers who are grinding their souls to accomplish? I always credit the SpaceX team for their accomplishments, fully aware they are successful despite Musk, not because of him. He’s good at getting attention and funding.
technothrasher 2y ago
> e.g. The Selfish Gene? The main thesis of The Selfish Gene is that evolution is best explained by a gene-centered model, rather than an organism or species model. I'm confused what that has to do with not being a perfectionist about Musk.

HideousKojima 2y ago

Seems he cares about it a great deal, he wants to make sure America is still a country where you can innovate and explore without the state blocking you at every turn. See Arianespace for how things would look if Elon had to deal with infamous European bureaucracy and red tape, the FAA is already bad enough.

roflyear 2y ago
Maybe. I don't see Elon saying that much. Mostly it's politically charged crap.
- HideousKojima 2y ago
  You should have seen his Lex Fridman interview then where he talks about exactly that and brings up things like the need to kidnap a seal (twice!), strap it to a board, and force it to listen to sonic boom noises to comply with braindeas government environmental regulations.
  - roflyear 2y ago
    I can't watch every one of these interviews
    - HideousKojima 2y ago
      Then how did you see enough of what he said to state "Maybe. I don't see Elon saying that much. Mostly it's politically charged crap."?
      - roflyear 2y ago
        Because what I do see and hear of him is politically charged crap.