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Kamala was, shockingly and as a surprise to all, an incredibly capable candidate in 2024. She didn't underperform yesterday relative to other Democrats. This y

Kamala was, shockingly and as a surprise to all, an incredibly capable candidate in 2024. She didn't underperform yesterday relative to other Democrats. This year, it wasn't about the candidate. It seems clear there wasn't any Democratic candidate who could have won.

rwyinuse 2y ago
Nah, Harris wasn't an ideal choice, just like Hillary Clinton wasn't. Ideally for next elections democrats would need someone likable with plenty of charisma and moderate stance on social issues. Being male would be a plus too, unfortunately. I think Tim Walz would have done better than Harris.
- dickersnoodle 2y ago
  I think so, too. He has a much more direct, down to earth way of talking to people.
dbish 2y ago
Charisma wins elections and she was not terribly charismatic https://paulgraham.com/charisma.html https://paulgraham.com/charisma.html
- iamsaitam 2y ago
  Apparently being a clown and a liar wins elections ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  - hackeraccount 2y ago
    Trump's a clown. Trump's a liar. Here's the thing. He sells. Always. He does that if he doesn't know about the issue. He does that if he doesn't care about the issue. Harris couldn't sell. Watch her talk about abortion. On some level that's one of the few things she manages to convey a sense of genuineness about. For everything else it's like she's saying "What do you want me to be for? I'm for that" it's fine if you're thinking that but when people figure out that's who you are it's more toxic then them thinking you're a liar or a clown.
    - tommit 2y ago
      I genuinely do not understand how anybody could listen to Trump saying something about a topic he clearly does not know about (of which there are a couple -- let's face it) and describe it as "selling". I'm not at all attacking you here by the way. But I'm legit speechless at that interpretation of his senile rambling.
      - hackeraccount 2y ago
        It is rambling but he's enthusiastic and he doesn't talk down to his supporters. When he's telling people that illegal immigrants are eating people's pets he speaks to his audience the way a friend would tell you that they caught the co-worker no one likes not flushing the toilet. There's shock, surprise, a bit of humor but not like he's a teacher lecturing. Harris on the other hand. There wouldn't be a joke. She'd take some time to explain why flushing the toilet was something everyone should do. Then she'd finish up by letting you know that she too always flushes.
  - otwall 2y ago
    The one trait all clowns and liars require is charisma
screye 2y ago
In the interest of HN guidelines, I won't respond with sarcasm. This is a bad opinion. Kamala was a terrible candidate by all metrics. Definitely, the worst Democratic candidate I have seen in my living memory. It should've been a dead giveaway that now a single Indian or Black person has a good thing to say about her. Her only victory was in California (single party & famously misaligned with national voting trends) and her only televised primary performance was a disaster. Democrats didn't run open primaries because they knew she'd lose. She didn't have concrete policy proposals, talks like an under-performing consultant and had zero charisma.
- gizmo 2y ago
  Not by all metrics. She did very well in the debate against Trump. She drew huge crowds with her rallies.
  - xienze 2y ago
    You’ll notice a pattern with those “huge crowds” — they had a free concert attached.
indigo0086 2y ago
she didn't outperform 2020 biden in any county in the united states.

rwyinuse 2y ago

Nah, Harris wasn't an ideal choice, just like Hillary Clinton wasn't. Ideally for next elections democrats would need someone likable with plenty of charisma and moderate stance on social issues. Being male would be a plus too, unfortunately. I think Tim Walz would have done better than Harris.

dickersnoodle 2y ago
I think so, too. He has a much more direct, down to earth way of talking to people.

dbish 2y ago

Charisma wins elections and she was not terribly charismatic https://paulgraham.com/charisma.html https://paulgraham.com/charisma.html

iamsaitam 2y ago
Apparently being a clown and a liar wins elections ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- hackeraccount 2y ago
  Trump's a clown. Trump's a liar. Here's the thing. He sells. Always. He does that if he doesn't know about the issue. He does that if he doesn't care about the issue. Harris couldn't sell. Watch her talk about abortion. On some level that's one of the few things she manages to convey a sense of genuineness about. For everything else it's like she's saying "What do you want me to be for? I'm for that" it's fine if you're thinking that but when people figure out that's who you are it's more toxic then them thinking you're a liar or a clown.
  - tommit 2y ago
    I genuinely do not understand how anybody could listen to Trump saying something about a topic he clearly does not know about (of which there are a couple -- let's face it) and describe it as "selling". I'm not at all attacking you here by the way. But I'm legit speechless at that interpretation of his senile rambling.
    - hackeraccount 2y ago
      It is rambling but he's enthusiastic and he doesn't talk down to his supporters. When he's telling people that illegal immigrants are eating people's pets he speaks to his audience the way a friend would tell you that they caught the co-worker no one likes not flushing the toilet. There's shock, surprise, a bit of humor but not like he's a teacher lecturing. Harris on the other hand. There wouldn't be a joke. She'd take some time to explain why flushing the toilet was something everyone should do. Then she'd finish up by letting you know that she too always flushes.
- otwall 2y ago
  The one trait all clowns and liars require is charisma

screye 2y ago

In the interest of HN guidelines, I won't respond with sarcasm. This is a bad opinion. Kamala was a terrible candidate by all metrics. Definitely, the worst Democratic candidate I have seen in my living memory. It should've been a dead giveaway that now a single Indian or Black person has a good thing to say about her. Her only victory was in California (single party & famously misaligned with national voting trends) and her only televised primary performance was a disaster. Democrats didn't run open primaries because they knew she'd lose. She didn't have concrete policy proposals, talks like an under-performing consultant and had zero charisma.

gizmo 2y ago
Not by all metrics. She did very well in the debate against Trump. She drew huge crowds with her rallies.
- xienze 2y ago
  You’ll notice a pattern with those “huge crowds” — they had a free concert attached.

indigo0086 2y ago

she didn't outperform 2020 biden in any county in the united states.