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On some level, you're describing a difference between traditional male bonding (joking and "razzing") and traditional female bonding (being kind and supportive)

On some level, you're describing a difference between traditional male bonding (joking and "razzing") and traditional female bonding (being kind and supportive). Both of these can be positive and both can be toxic - bullying is an obvious case, but just ask anyone who has been in a supposedly "supportive" environment filled with backstabbing and gossip how nice that is. I don't know why there's a need to define either of these as inferior and wrong - isn't the point of diversity to allow people from different backgrounds to take different approaches? To me, personally, the "kind, supportive" style often comes off as insincere. It's actually a barrier to me trusting someone. But I don't know, maybe that's just me.

Seattle3503 2y ago
- To me, personally, the "kind, supportive" style often comes off as insincere. It's actually a barrier to me trusting someone. But I don't know, maybe that's just me. I've hesrd others express this. That someone belives the mean things about them rather than the nice ones says more.aboit their self image than the comments IMO.
- int_19h 2y ago
  Or it might be, you know, their actual lived experience seeing people "say nice things" to someone and then treat them in a way that makes it clear that it was all just a veneer of politeness.
  - Seattle3503 2y ago
    People say rude things that are false too, in order to hurt you.
mock-possum 2y ago
I really don’t get the argument that we shouldn’t be kind because some people ‘don’t really mean it.’ Like - the whole point is fostering a comfortable work environment, where drama like this doesn’t happen, because people are careful of how they interact with others. A ‘supposedly’ supportive environment filled with backstabbing and gossip is in fact not a supportive environment, so why bring it up as if it’s somehow a ‘gotcha’ or even related? Do people really not understand what a comfortable, supportive environment populated by kind caring coworkers looks like?
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Seattle3503 2y ago

- To me, personally, the "kind, supportive" style often comes off as insincere. It's actually a barrier to me trusting someone. But I don't know, maybe that's just me. I've hesrd others express this. That someone belives the mean things about them rather than the nice ones says more.aboit their self image than the comments IMO.

int_19h 2y ago
Or it might be, you know, their actual lived experience seeing people "say nice things" to someone and then treat them in a way that makes it clear that it was all just a veneer of politeness.
- Seattle3503 2y ago
  People say rude things that are false too, in order to hurt you.

mock-possum 2y ago

I really don’t get the argument that we shouldn’t be kind because some people ‘don’t really mean it.’ Like - the whole point is fostering a comfortable work environment, where drama like this doesn’t happen, because people are careful of how they interact with others. A ‘supposedly’ supportive environment filled with backstabbing and gossip is in fact not a supportive environment, so why bring it up as if it’s somehow a ‘gotcha’ or even related? Do people really not understand what a comfortable, supportive environment populated by kind caring coworkers looks like?

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