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I'm curious to see if AMD will release a 9950X3D this time around. I can foresee that kind of CPU dominating everything else across most workloads given how goo

I'm curious to see if AMD will release a 9950X3D this time around. I can foresee that kind of CPU dominating everything else across most workloads given how good this 8-core is holding up against CPUs with double or more cores.

Tuna-Fish 2y ago
Yes, it's supposedly coming early next year.
- jsheard 2y ago
  I think the current rumor is that only one of the chiplets will have the extra cache though, so you'll have 8 cores with the big cache and 8 cores with the normal cache.
  - qzw 2y ago
    If they make one with extra cache on both CCDs, it would probably get some kind of AI branding and be at a significantly higher price point. Current games would hardly benefit from 16 cores all with that much cache.
    - scheeseman486 2y ago
      The main benefit is that it's a no-compromise product. High single thread performance for games and there's more of those cores for productivity, it'd be the best workstation CPU and the best gaming CPU in one package.
      - qzw 2y ago
        But you'd get 95+% of the same benefit with the v-cache on just one CCD, which is what they did with the 7950X3D.
        snvzz 2y ago
        there was some point to doing that, due to the power restrictions imposed by having cache on top. But now cache is underneath.
        scheeseman486 2y ago
        They've solved a lot of the manufacturing issues since then and since it's already a premium product, why not go all in? There might be cases where the extra cache helps performance in heavily multithreaded workloads, also niche usecases like running the chip in a headless gaming server, which would allow for splitting of the CPU into two for simultaneous game streaming without significantly compromising performance for either client. That's the point of no compromise, sometimes it's nice to have 100% benefit (not to say that making a single CCD cache version doesn't make sense as a product).
didgetmaster 2y ago
I have a 5950x that is now a few years old and I planned to upgrade to a 9950x. I have never had one of the 3D V-Cache processors and am curious how it would improve the benchmarks for my multi-threaded data management system that does many operations against a set of 4K blocks of data. I heard rumors that a 9950x3D version will be available in January. I am trying to figure out if I should wait.
- grepfru_it 2y ago
  January is two months away. I would.

Tuna-Fish 2y ago

Yes, it's supposedly coming early next year.

jsheard 2y ago
I think the current rumor is that only one of the chiplets will have the extra cache though, so you'll have 8 cores with the big cache and 8 cores with the normal cache.
- qzw 2y ago
  If they make one with extra cache on both CCDs, it would probably get some kind of AI branding and be at a significantly higher price point. Current games would hardly benefit from 16 cores all with that much cache.
  - scheeseman486 2y ago
    The main benefit is that it's a no-compromise product. High single thread performance for games and there's more of those cores for productivity, it'd be the best workstation CPU and the best gaming CPU in one package.
    - qzw 2y ago
      But you'd get 95+% of the same benefit with the v-cache on just one CCD, which is what they did with the 7950X3D.
      - snvzz 2y ago
        there was some point to doing that, due to the power restrictions imposed by having cache on top. But now cache is underneath.
      - scheeseman486 2y ago
        They've solved a lot of the manufacturing issues since then and since it's already a premium product, why not go all in? There might be cases where the extra cache helps performance in heavily multithreaded workloads, also niche usecases like running the chip in a headless gaming server, which would allow for splitting of the CPU into two for simultaneous game streaming without significantly compromising performance for either client. That's the point of no compromise, sometimes it's nice to have 100% benefit (not to say that making a single CCD cache version doesn't make sense as a product).

didgetmaster 2y ago

I have a 5950x that is now a few years old and I planned to upgrade to a 9950x. I have never had one of the 3D V-Cache processors and am curious how it would improve the benchmarks for my multi-threaded data management system that does many operations against a set of 4K blocks of data. I heard rumors that a 9950x3D version will be available in January. I am trying to figure out if I should wait.

grepfru_it 2y ago
January is two months away. I would.