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One candidate was a normal functioning human being with policy positions other normal functioning humans can agree or disagree with. A better analogy would be a

One candidate was a normal functioning human being with policy positions other normal functioning humans can agree or disagree with. A better analogy would be a choice between blue cheese and poison.

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kernal 2y ago
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- compootr 2y ago
  are you saying the orange (70 something years old iirc?) was better? take the politics back to reddit!
  - kernal 2y ago
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    - kaba0 2y ago
      Have you ever heard him speak?! Quite literally asking, are people just voting/liking him based on static images and deliberately cut to look somewhat acceptable videos? I swear his speech is worse than Biden's has ever been.
      - Ancapistani 2y ago
        As best I can tell, he speaks at the level of someone with about a fifth-grade education. I believe that to be intentional, as it means he's easily understood and not perceived as demeaning. More importantly, his speech is consistent and has been his entire political career. Biden's problem isn't that he's not able to speak at a collegiate level; it's that he's very obviously getting worse over time. The man is currently President of the USA - when's the last time you heard him speak publicly and take questions?
        compootr 2y ago
        also important to note: american voters brought a guy into office with not a plan, but "a concept of a plan"
      - newfriend 2y ago
        It's not. You're just incredibly biased. Yes, I've listened to him speak many, many times. I listened to him speak for 3 hours on an unscripted podcast. I've listened to him speak (unscripted) to many other interviewers. Trump is charismatic, real, and genuinely funny. The media has been so unbelievably unfair to this guy. I feel sorry for him.
BobbyJo 2y ago
As a moderate who voted for KH, the biggest problem with the DNC candidates in recent decades is that they do not, in fact, appear to be real human beings, but instead curated facades composed of politically desirable traits.
- Calavar 2y ago
  I can see your point in the presidential race. For down ballot candidates though, I'd say exactly the opposite. So many GOP politicians who sing praise of Trump publicly have been caught calling him a moron privately. Or in the case of his VP, calling him Hitler publicly. The scent of insincerity is just rampant through the GOP.
  - BobbyJo 2y ago
    > I can see your point in the presidential race. For down ballot candidates though, I'd say exactly the opposite. I agree, however, most people separate one from the other sparingly.
glimshe 2y ago
Totally agree. Thankfully, democracy ensured that Poison lost.
- lern_too_spel 2y ago
  Tell me then, what are Trump's policy positions aside from keeping himself out of jail? Do you think he is actually going to impose across-the-board 20% tariffs? His big donors and the market don't because that would result in other countries imposing 20% tariffs on all US exports and trading with each other instead. That was just a story to tell his poor uneducated voters so they wouldn't think he would raise their taxes, reduce their benefits, or explode the deficit. There's no more build a wall rhetoric after he failed to do so in his first term and then blocked a border control bill. What he will support is cryptocurrency speculation, which he has personally profited from and his Silicon Valley donors hope to continue to profit from.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    If we want to be optimistic, he will cut regulations and probably also funding to our military-industrial complex. For the wealthy, he will transfer an immense amount of resources to us.
    - keybored 2y ago
      > For the wealthy, he will transfer an immense amount of resources to us. People complain about people not hating Trump on this board. Ostensibly forgetting that some people here are very rich.
      - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        For one’s 24h capital gains to exceed the median American wage only requires a few million at play in almost any asset. That is a fifth of households [1] and I’d guess around double that fraction of likely voters. (If you’re in crypto, you could have done it with less than a million.) That will influence how folks think about Trump, at least in the short term. [1] https://www.fool.com/retirement/2024/05/27/heres-how-many-millionaires-there-are-in-america/ https://www.fool.com/retirement/2024/05/27/heres-how-many-mi...

One candidate was a normal functioning human being with policy positions other normal functioning humans can agree or disagree with. A better analogy would be a choice between blue cheese and poison.

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kernal 2y ago

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compootr 2y ago
are you saying the orange (70 something years old iirc?) was better? take the politics back to reddit!
- kernal 2y ago
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  - kaba0 2y ago
    Have you ever heard him speak?! Quite literally asking, are people just voting/liking him based on static images and deliberately cut to look somewhat acceptable videos? I swear his speech is worse than Biden's has ever been.
    - Ancapistani 2y ago
      As best I can tell, he speaks at the level of someone with about a fifth-grade education. I believe that to be intentional, as it means he's easily understood and not perceived as demeaning. More importantly, his speech is consistent and has been his entire political career. Biden's problem isn't that he's not able to speak at a collegiate level; it's that he's very obviously getting worse over time. The man is currently President of the USA - when's the last time you heard him speak publicly and take questions?
      - compootr 2y ago
        also important to note: american voters brought a guy into office with not a plan, but "a concept of a plan"
    - newfriend 2y ago
      It's not. You're just incredibly biased. Yes, I've listened to him speak many, many times. I listened to him speak for 3 hours on an unscripted podcast. I've listened to him speak (unscripted) to many other interviewers. Trump is charismatic, real, and genuinely funny. The media has been so unbelievably unfair to this guy. I feel sorry for him.

BobbyJo 2y ago

As a moderate who voted for KH, the biggest problem with the DNC candidates in recent decades is that they do not, in fact, appear to be real human beings, but instead curated facades composed of politically desirable traits.

Calavar 2y ago
I can see your point in the presidential race. For down ballot candidates though, I'd say exactly the opposite. So many GOP politicians who sing praise of Trump publicly have been caught calling him a moron privately. Or in the case of his VP, calling him Hitler publicly. The scent of insincerity is just rampant through the GOP.
- BobbyJo 2y ago
  > I can see your point in the presidential race. For down ballot candidates though, I'd say exactly the opposite. I agree, however, most people separate one from the other sparingly.

glimshe 2y ago

Totally agree. Thankfully, democracy ensured that Poison lost.

lern_too_spel 2y ago
Tell me then, what are Trump's policy positions aside from keeping himself out of jail? Do you think he is actually going to impose across-the-board 20% tariffs? His big donors and the market don't because that would result in other countries imposing 20% tariffs on all US exports and trading with each other instead. That was just a story to tell his poor uneducated voters so they wouldn't think he would raise their taxes, reduce their benefits, or explode the deficit. There's no more build a wall rhetoric after he failed to do so in his first term and then blocked a border control bill. What he will support is cryptocurrency speculation, which he has personally profited from and his Silicon Valley donors hope to continue to profit from.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  If we want to be optimistic, he will cut regulations and probably also funding to our military-industrial complex. For the wealthy, he will transfer an immense amount of resources to us.
  - keybored 2y ago
    > For the wealthy, he will transfer an immense amount of resources to us. People complain about people not hating Trump on this board. Ostensibly forgetting that some people here are very rich.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      For one’s 24h capital gains to exceed the median American wage only requires a few million at play in almost any asset. That is a fifth of households [1] and I’d guess around double that fraction of likely voters. (If you’re in crypto, you could have done it with less than a million.) That will influence how folks think about Trump, at least in the short term. [1] https://www.fool.com/retirement/2024/05/27/heres-how-many-millionaires-there-are-in-america/ https://www.fool.com/retirement/2024/05/27/heres-how-many-mi...