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But Trump didn’t do any of things you suggested either. In fact he was barely coherent in his ideas most of the time.

toastercat 2y ago
Yeah this always surprises me when people compare the candidates. OK, Kamala was mediocre. But a ham sandwich is better than Trump's inane incoherent rambling. His positions are a vague protectionism.
- RajT88 2y ago
  It kind of makes sense from a certain angle. Trump is a known quantity - people know what they are getting with him and have made their peace with him being how he is. People expect more from Democrats. Harris would get dinged for saying things that Trump says, by the same people who are fine with Trump saying those things. If that seems irrational and hypocritical, well, that's how people are, regardless of their politics. Another model of how to think about the candidates is that human beings make decisions based on how the person or thing in front of them makes them feel - and afterward they come up with post-hoc rationalizations as to why. Even smart people do this. To some extent, we're all lying to ourselves about this. So it makes sense that this time around both candidates ran campaigns focused on emotions, instead of policy specifics.
Jeema101 2y ago
He is barely coherent most of the time, but several of his ideas do resonate with people and are easy to understand: 1 - Other countries in the world have taken advantage of the US 2 - Illegal immigrants have changed the country for the worse and are taking jobs #2 in particular has been framed as being racist. There IS a good deal of racism mixed in there, but the truth is that low skilled illegal immigrants DO compete for many of the same jobs as lower-skilled Americans. None other than Bernie Sanders said as much about the subject right around 2007. His stance at that time was that we needed to do something about illegal immigration specifically to protect the jobs of American workers, but then later he changed his tune to fit in with the rest of the party. If you address the majority of people's concerns and worries, they'll vote for you.
- seaal 2y ago
  I am indeed very worried about all these illegal immigrants taking our very important jobs. When I order food delivery, get in an Uber, and drop off my laundry at the wash and fold I want an under-educated American!
  - Throaway116 2y ago
    This is such a goofy response. Are you aware that under-educated Americans need jobs, and in fact vote???
    - seaal 2y ago
      That's why we have surging high unemployment! Oh wait it's still lower than when George Bush was president.
      - hext 2y ago
        People want prosperous livelihoods not just jobs. Do you think those working those low paying dead end jobs are just completely content with having zero mobility or financial security? That uber driving might be living in their car but at least they are employed right??
  - foolfoolz 2y ago
    if you are buying delivery food, taxis, and laundry services you are clearly an upper class net worth individual. surely you know what’s best for working class americans
    - seaal 2y ago
      Yes I'm a super high net worth individual with a household income of $60K a year. It's called living in a city, I don't own a car or have a laundry machine.
      - ptek 2y ago

Yeah this always surprises me when people compare the candidates. OK, Kamala was mediocre. But a ham sandwich is better than Trump's inane incoherent rambling. His positions are a vague protectionism.

RajT88 2y ago
It kind of makes sense from a certain angle. Trump is a known quantity - people know what they are getting with him and have made their peace with him being how he is. People expect more from Democrats. Harris would get dinged for saying things that Trump says, by the same people who are fine with Trump saying those things. If that seems irrational and hypocritical, well, that's how people are, regardless of their politics. Another model of how to think about the candidates is that human beings make decisions based on how the person or thing in front of them makes them feel - and afterward they come up with post-hoc rationalizations as to why. Even smart people do this. To some extent, we're all lying to ourselves about this. So it makes sense that this time around both candidates ran campaigns focused on emotions, instead of policy specifics.

Jeema101 2y ago

He is barely coherent most of the time, but several of his ideas do resonate with people and are easy to understand: 1 - Other countries in the world have taken advantage of the US 2 - Illegal immigrants have changed the country for the worse and are taking jobs #2 in particular has been framed as being racist. There IS a good deal of racism mixed in there, but the truth is that low skilled illegal immigrants DO compete for many of the same jobs as lower-skilled Americans. None other than Bernie Sanders said as much about the subject right around 2007. His stance at that time was that we needed to do something about illegal immigration specifically to protect the jobs of American workers, but then later he changed his tune to fit in with the rest of the party. If you address the majority of people's concerns and worries, they'll vote for you.

seaal 2y ago
I am indeed very worried about all these illegal immigrants taking our very important jobs. When I order food delivery, get in an Uber, and drop off my laundry at the wash and fold I want an under-educated American!
- Throaway116 2y ago
  This is such a goofy response. Are you aware that under-educated Americans need jobs, and in fact vote???
  - seaal 2y ago
    That's why we have surging high unemployment! Oh wait it's still lower than when George Bush was president.
    - hext 2y ago
      People want prosperous livelihoods not just jobs. Do you think those working those low paying dead end jobs are just completely content with having zero mobility or financial security? That uber driving might be living in their car but at least they are employed right??
- foolfoolz 2y ago
  if you are buying delivery food, taxis, and laundry services you are clearly an upper class net worth individual. surely you know what’s best for working class americans
  - seaal 2y ago
    Yes I'm a super high net worth individual with a household income of $60K a year. It's called living in a city, I don't own a car or have a laundry machine.
    - ptek 2y ago