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By the time Primary season kicks off in early 2028, it will have been twenty years since the last time the Democratic Party membership selected a new candidate
by marcusverus 2y ago
By the time Primary season kicks off in early 2028, it will have been twenty years since the last time the Democratic Party membership selected a new candidate without direct interference from party bigwigs.
Twenty. Years.
- encoderer 2y agoThey held a primary in 2020. Kamala, Warren, Beto, Bernie and more all ran with Biden.
- _heimdall 2y agoThat definitely feels like the forgotten primary. My best guess is that its because that primary was book ended by primaries that were heavily influenced and controlled by the DNC.
- odo1242 2y agoI mean, primaries usually aren’t generally heavily remembered.
- eschulz 2y agoMany believe that the party gave Biden and unfair advantage using their superdelegates. The Republican Party does not have such super delegates, and in fact in 2016 Trump won solely due to his ability to organize and rally a well-working campaign even as party elites were seething at his ascendency and insulting him in public.
- admksx45v65uqpw 2y ago[dead]
- 1024core 2y agoDNC was worried that Bernie would be nominated.
- anon291 2y agoSuper delegates are undemocratic, and always have been. How does the party of 'democracy' get away with this? The GOP has never used them and always just let its voters vote. When the voters chose Trump despite the leaderships hatred of them, they all stepped aside. Are they perfect... of course not? But compared to the democrats, they've always stood by their voters.
- jimbob45 2y agoYep, the DNC has lacked the self-awareness in these past few years to gaze within and cull the cruft that 100% of their voter base hate. Superdelegates need to go. They're this generation's Korematsu (as in they are still active while people would rightfully think they're gone). I feel confident that superdelegates will come back to bite the DNC decades down the line. In fairness, they actually did change the rules around them after 2016 but stopped short of removing them.
- anon291 2y agoI hope they get rid of them!
- a_victorp 2y agoYep, I think that is the ultimate reason. The GOP party ends up listening to their voters and the Democratic party does not
- paulryanrogers 2y agoGOP has also been captured by a B-list celebrity whose brand is rich, asshole misogynist.
- jes5199 2y agothe way I remember it, it was a competitive primary with Bernie and Warren competing for the lead when suddenly Biden mysterious knocked them all out, as if the party had suddenly overruled the process. Maybe that was an illusion but a lot of people interpreted it this way.
- BadHumans 2y agoBiden won pretty handedly because moderates didn't like that Bernie calls himself a socialist. If you're chronically online it might seem like Bernie was leading the pack but I've had many conversations with the older voting population that echo the sentiment that he was never their guy.
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- mtalantikite 2y agoThe Democrats even tried to drop the primary here in New York by striking Bernie and everyone from the ballot because they had decided Biden was going to get the nomination.
- caekislove 2y agoBecause everyone besides Bernie dropped out right before Super Tuesday and endorsed Biden, hoping to get appointments in a future Biden Admin. Many, like Buttigeg were well rewarded for this.
- whynotminot 2y agoThis conspiracy from Bernie bros is so deeply stupid. The democratic coalition depends on black voters, and they decisively chose Joe Biden in South Carolina, sending a clear signal about who would have the strength to beat Trump (and in the end they were right). It was not a party conspiracy.
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- lysace 2y agoKamala dropped out early. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries#Timeline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presiden...
- labster 2y ago[flagged]
- lern_too_spel 2y ago[flagged]
- braincat31415 2y agoWhen in doubt, always blame the Russians.
- lern_too_spel 2y agoThey released the emails that this conspiracy theory is based on.
- leereeves 2y agoBut the DNC wrote them. Don't blame the messenger.
- davorak 2y agoDid we get verification the emails were unaltered? To make an analogy the initial email release was smoke, it demands investigation, smoke often means fire after all, but not always.
- marcusverus 2y agoHad a single email been altered, you can be sure that the DNC would have been shouting it from the rooftops. Being able to label the emails as 'altered' would have made for fantastic water-muddying, which is a classic defensive tactic in such a situation. Any political operative would be expected to do the same. The fact that you are (as I am) unaware of any such claim, in an episode which was at the top of the news cycle for months, would seem to be a pretty clear indicator that the emails were legit.
- davorak 2y ago> Had a single email been altered, you can be sure that the DNC would have been shouting it from the rooftops. Easy to imagine they would not in some cases. Often people do not comment on on going investigations. Or in international espionage I know it is common to hide what you know and what you do not know to keep your competitors/enemies in the dark to give your self an advantage. So the USA spy organizations may not want the DNC to show its hand. I can not make the assumption that you are putting forth at least.
- zusammen 2y ago[dead]
- Manuel_D 2y agoThe 2020 primary went without large interference. Lo and behold, the democratic candidate won that election. The lesson is clear: to win elections hold actual primaries instead of appointing candidates.
- webninja 2y agoThey’ve been incapable of holding actual primaries since at least 2016. They curate, subvert, stifle, and influence who rises up from the primary election. They don’t care at all about democracy or the republic. Any Democrat who is a populist that actually cares about the American people, ex Bernie Sanders, will be shut down in favor of one that can push globalist agendas at the expense of the local population in exchange for looting the national treasury. When Bernie stepped out of line and genuinely wanted to help people, the DNC establishment whipped him back into step and reminded him who’s boss. I’m genuinely surprised this election appeared to ever be close. America was saved and a better chapter begins. Do you disagree? A plurality of Americans agree with that sentiment as evidenced by the popular vote and the winning of all 7 swing states.
- anon291 2y ago[flagged]
- sapphire42 2y agoDemocracy dies when voters elect a candidate who tried to overthrow the democratic system before, and promises to do it again.
- anon291 2y agoBased on voting patterns, I think to many americans today, the main claim of the J6ers (that there were some fraudulent ballots in the 2020 election) is looking more likely, not less. If anything were to come out, the J6ers would become freedom fighters, just as they are apparently in the hearts of many Americans. Like it or not, perception is how you win an election. On the other hand, the democrats have tried politically-inspired prosecutions, selecting a nominee while ignoring the party writ large. Anyway, the simple truth is that Americans worried about democracy went to trump by large margins. Consider that
- DiggyJohnson 2y agoDoes this not get exhausting?
- ord0abcha0 2y ago[dead]
- mensetmanusman 2y agoDemocracy always dies by democracy though. Thats the fundamental flaw.
- cruffle_duffle 2y agoAt least those folks went after the government instead of smashing the windows of every business in my city. But that event, despite being in the “worst global pandemic of 100 years” somehow got a free pass. It was labeled as “the summer of love”. This country was founded by government distrust and rebellion. It was not founded on bashing your neighbors windows. Those people who stormed the capitol put the fear of god into a bunch of politicians. Good for them. …the people who set fire to neighborhood buildings… not so sure about that one.