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I've heard this a lot, so I looked for the bill, because these bills usually have things that politicians don't tell you about. > Next, the bill establishes an

I've heard this a lot, so I looked for the bill, because these bills usually have things that politicians don't tell you about. > Next, the bill establishes an expedited process that authorizes asylum officers to adjudicate certain asylum claims. Among other provisions, these provisional noncustodial removal proceedings impose certain target timelines for determining asylum claims and limit review of denied claims. The bill also establishes a stricter threshold for individuals to remain in the United States pending adjudication of an asylum petition. > The bill extends and establishes immigration pathways for Afghan citizens or nationals, including by (1) making certain individuals admitted or paroled to the United States eligible for conditional permanent resident status, and (2) expanding eligibility for special immigrant visas for certain individuals who were injured while supporting the U.S. mission in Afghanistan. No wonder Republicans never voted for this. This goes against their MO. I can't blame them for not voting against their views and the views of their constituents on a specific part of the policy. See for yourself here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/4361 https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/436...

dleary 2y ago
The problem with your argument is that this was only 8 months or so ago, and so we all remember how this bill was championed and lauded by the Republicans until Trump said “vote against it because I don’t want the Democrats to have a win”.
- giancarlostoro 2y ago
  My statement still stands, I quoted things ADDED to the bill over time, so by the time they added what the left wanted in order to vote for it, nobody wanted it. If you visit my link, you will notice the asylum bits were all added on the same day they voted on the bill.
- newfriend 2y ago
  This is absolutely not true. The very moment the text of the bill was released, Republican senators held a press conference on how there was zero chance of it being passed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf4EzoWR944 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf4EzoWR944 Here is the Speaker talking about the same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii0tl8d5G3g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii0tl8d5G3g Despite what you may have been led to believe, Republican senators actually do have agency.
  - dleary 2y ago
    This is a strawman. I didn't say that ALL Republicans supported it in hive-mind lockstep. I said "this bill was championed and lauded by the Republicans". You linked to a video where 6 of the 49 Republican senators hold a mini-conference complaining about how they don't agree with their party's leadership. That doesn't refute the statement that "this bill was championed and lauded by the Republicans" if most Republicans champion and laud the bill. Once again, I'll repeat: This was only 8 months ago. We remember how the bill was expected to pass before Trump told them not to. And Trump specifically said that the reason not to was that he wanted to the border to remain weak so that he could nail the Democrats on it.
cloverich 2y ago
> The bill extends and establishes immigration pathways for Afghan citizens or nationals Were R's against this part? I thought giving immigration pathways to those Afghans that fought on our side in the war had R support? I'm very fuzzy but seem to recall a Republican veteran being one of the key people advocating for it on a news segment i'd listened to.
- giancarlostoro 2y ago
  Expediting the process for illegals is something they wont want. This was added on to the bill after its original draft. If you look at the link I posted they amended things to the bill over time.

dleary 2y ago

The problem with your argument is that this was only 8 months or so ago, and so we all remember how this bill was championed and lauded by the Republicans until Trump said “vote against it because I don’t want the Democrats to have a win”.

giancarlostoro 2y ago
My statement still stands, I quoted things ADDED to the bill over time, so by the time they added what the left wanted in order to vote for it, nobody wanted it. If you visit my link, you will notice the asylum bits were all added on the same day they voted on the bill.
newfriend 2y ago
This is absolutely not true. The very moment the text of the bill was released, Republican senators held a press conference on how there was zero chance of it being passed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf4EzoWR944 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf4EzoWR944 Here is the Speaker talking about the same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii0tl8d5G3g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii0tl8d5G3g Despite what you may have been led to believe, Republican senators actually do have agency.
- dleary 2y ago
  This is a strawman. I didn't say that ALL Republicans supported it in hive-mind lockstep. I said "this bill was championed and lauded by the Republicans". You linked to a video where 6 of the 49 Republican senators hold a mini-conference complaining about how they don't agree with their party's leadership. That doesn't refute the statement that "this bill was championed and lauded by the Republicans" if most Republicans champion and laud the bill. Once again, I'll repeat: This was only 8 months ago. We remember how the bill was expected to pass before Trump told them not to. And Trump specifically said that the reason not to was that he wanted to the border to remain weak so that he could nail the Democrats on it.

cloverich 2y ago

> The bill extends and establishes immigration pathways for Afghan citizens or nationals Were R's against this part? I thought giving immigration pathways to those Afghans that fought on our side in the war had R support? I'm very fuzzy but seem to recall a Republican veteran being one of the key people advocating for it on a news segment i'd listened to.

giancarlostoro 2y ago
Expediting the process for illegals is something they wont want. This was added on to the bill after its original draft. If you look at the link I posted they amended things to the bill over time.