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I'm not so sure. Last time he was ousted from the company it dodn't go well at all...

by mixmax 18y ago

unalone 18y ago
Not well for him or for Apple? Jobs will go to extremes for his sense of justice. He could have stayed at Apple the first time, but he quit instead to make a new company that did what he felt he ought to do.
- mixmax 18y ago
  for apple
- chollida1 18y ago
  > He could have stayed at Apple the first time Really? In John Scully's biography he made it clear that Steve was told he would have to leave in no uncertain terms, by both the board and John Scully. They wouldn't even allow him to stay as the janitor because John couldn't trust that Steve wouldn't go around undermining him.
- sutro 18y ago
  For an Apple fanboy you're not very well-versed in Apple history.
  - unalone 18y ago
    No, I'm not. I got a Mac about 6 months ago, and while I read things I find interesting about the company, I don't go out of my way to read biographies and the like. So from what I'd read, Jobs was demoted and he chose to quit rather than stay at his position.
    - sutro 18y ago
      You don't have to go out of your way to read biographies. In Jobs' Stanford commencement speech, discussed and linked many times here on HN, he talks about being "fired" from Apple. He also discusses it in Cringely's "Triumph of the Nerds" documentary. Given that Jobs himself publicly acknowledges that he was fired, I'd be interested to know what it is you read that claims otherwise.
      - unalone 18y ago
        But then our visions of the future began to diverge and eventually we had a falling out. When we did, our Board of Directors sided with him. So at 30 I was out. And very publicly out. What had been the focus of my entire adult life was gone, and it was devastating. That I always assumed meant he left for something else, but rereading I can see that he does specifically say fired. Huh! I don't know where I got the impression that he left voluntarily, though it's one that I've had for a while now.

I'm not so sure. Last time he was ousted from the company it dodn't go well at all...

by mixmax 18y ago

I'm not so sure. Last time he was ousted from the company it dodn't go well at all...

Not well for him or for Apple? Jobs will go to extremes for his sense of justice. He could have stayed at Apple the first time, but he quit instead to make a new company that did what he felt he ought to do.

mixmax 18y ago
for apple
chollida1 18y ago
> He could have stayed at Apple the first time Really? In John Scully's biography he made it clear that Steve was told he would have to leave in no uncertain terms, by both the board and John Scully. They wouldn't even allow him to stay as the janitor because John couldn't trust that Steve wouldn't go around undermining him.
sutro 18y ago
For an Apple fanboy you're not very well-versed in Apple history.
- unalone 18y ago
  No, I'm not. I got a Mac about 6 months ago, and while I read things I find interesting about the company, I don't go out of my way to read biographies and the like. So from what I'd read, Jobs was demoted and he chose to quit rather than stay at his position.
  - sutro 18y ago
    You don't have to go out of your way to read biographies. In Jobs' Stanford commencement speech, discussed and linked many times here on HN, he talks about being "fired" from Apple. He also discusses it in Cringely's "Triumph of the Nerds" documentary. Given that Jobs himself publicly acknowledges that he was fired, I'd be interested to know what it is you read that claims otherwise.
    - unalone 18y ago
      But then our visions of the future began to diverge and eventually we had a falling out. When we did, our Board of Directors sided with him. So at 30 I was out. And very publicly out. What had been the focus of my entire adult life was gone, and it was devastating. That I always assumed meant he left for something else, but rereading I can see that he does specifically say fired. Huh! I don't know where I got the impression that he left voluntarily, though it's one that I've had for a while now.