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I am not sure that's the case. The main supporter is a guy who produces e-cars with all the interests to sell more of them. The way I see it, he will continue

by mk89 2y ago

I am not sure that's the case. The main supporter is a guy who produces e-cars with all the interests to sell more of them. The way I see it, he will continue with the transition whenever it benefits him/the country. Which means some programs might be canceled, especially if they go against such interests.

lavela 2y ago
> The main supporter is a guy who produces e-cars with all the interests to sell more of them. Sure Elon might have an impact on CO2 emissions in the transport sector but I don't see him moving things that don't directly benefit him, say, electricity/heat production or agriculture.
- mk89 2y ago
  Transport is the 2nd sector in terms of CO2 emissions. If we solve that alone, I am happy.
  - FrankyHollywood 2y ago
    Actually it's only 16% https://www.visualcapitalist.com/a-global-breakdown-of-greenhouse-gas-emissions-by-sector/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/a-global-breakdown-of-green...
    - mk89 2y ago
      I found it here: https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector Not sure how reliable all this is... Yet it seems "road" is nearly 10-11% which is big enough to solve and to have already an impact in everyday life. Then it cascades to other sectors too.
    - cdrini 2y ago
      That visual shows that road transport is 11% , making it the second highest category, as the poster said. This is a great graphic though, thanks for sharing! Edit: actually in the graphic it's the largest sector! My bad
- foobazgt 2y ago
  Tesla literally has a massive (electrical) energy storage business alongside solar. There are huge battery installations that are helping regions like Hawaii and Australia pivot to renewables.
- anon291 2y ago
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TomK32 2y ago
An e-car is still a car and a more environmentally friendly public transport or bicycle.
xanderlewis 2y ago
Musk does seem to have gone bonkers in the last two years or so, but I agree. I suspect he might end up being a surprisingly moderating, rational influence on Trump. He might have (at least publicly) aligned himself with conspiracy theorists, outrage merchants and general grifters for now, but I think at heart he's still pro-science.
- mk89 2y ago
  I guess he is pro science indeed. And opportunistic too. He might also morally align with Trump more than with Dems, who knows. These elections were just an unfortunately ridiculous show.
- kelnos 2y ago
  You know you're in trouble when Musk of all people is considered a moderating influence compared to your president. I'm not convinced Musk cares all that much about the environment anymore, if he ever truly did. EVs were a bet that car buyers (and governments) would care about the environment. Musk just wants to go to Mars and leave Earth behind.
  - xanderlewis 2y ago
    True. The world is certainly in trouble. I’m just saying it might not be as bad as it immediately looks.
- no_wizard 2y ago
  Why wouldn't we take his public rhetoric and actions at face value? Why is this possibly a good idea to simply say 'well in his heart he trusts science' when he is demonstrating the contrary? I don't want to live in fantasy land here. Based on observable actions, Musk isn't brining any positive force to the table
  - xanderlewis 2y ago
    Isn’t that obvious? He knew he could only get to the position he’s now in (or at least have the best chance of doing so) if he joined in with the MAGA brigade. He clearly does align with the movement in some ways, but he also is responsible for SpaceX, for example. Don’t you think that marks him out as being a bit different from the others? Also, there are observable actions. If you listen to some of the podcasts he’s been on recently (as painful as they can be) you’ll hear him very flatly rejecting suggestions of quackery and ‘vaccine scepticism’. He’s so obviously not stupid, even if he’s degenerated somewhat, as many of us have, by constant exposure to poisonous social media.
imoverclocked 2y ago
He’s also the rocket guy with private jets.

by mk89 2y ago

lavela 2y ago

> The main supporter is a guy who produces e-cars with all the interests to sell more of them. Sure Elon might have an impact on CO2 emissions in the transport sector but I don't see him moving things that don't directly benefit him, say, electricity/heat production or agriculture.

mk89 2y ago
Transport is the 2nd sector in terms of CO2 emissions. If we solve that alone, I am happy.
- FrankyHollywood 2y ago
  Actually it's only 16% https://www.visualcapitalist.com/a-global-breakdown-of-greenhouse-gas-emissions-by-sector/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/a-global-breakdown-of-green...
  - mk89 2y ago
    I found it here: https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector Not sure how reliable all this is... Yet it seems "road" is nearly 10-11% which is big enough to solve and to have already an impact in everyday life. Then it cascades to other sectors too.
  - cdrini 2y ago
    That visual shows that road transport is 11% , making it the second highest category, as the poster said. This is a great graphic though, thanks for sharing! Edit: actually in the graphic it's the largest sector! My bad
foobazgt 2y ago
Tesla literally has a massive (electrical) energy storage business alongside solar. There are huge battery installations that are helping regions like Hawaii and Australia pivot to renewables.
anon291 2y ago
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TomK32 2y ago

An e-car is still a car and a more environmentally friendly public transport or bicycle.

xanderlewis 2y ago

Musk does seem to have gone bonkers in the last two years or so, but I agree. I suspect he might end up being a surprisingly moderating, rational influence on Trump. He might have (at least publicly) aligned himself with conspiracy theorists, outrage merchants and general grifters for now, but I think at heart he's still pro-science.

mk89 2y ago
I guess he is pro science indeed. And opportunistic too. He might also morally align with Trump more than with Dems, who knows. These elections were just an unfortunately ridiculous show.
kelnos 2y ago
You know you're in trouble when Musk of all people is considered a moderating influence compared to your president. I'm not convinced Musk cares all that much about the environment anymore, if he ever truly did. EVs were a bet that car buyers (and governments) would care about the environment. Musk just wants to go to Mars and leave Earth behind.
- xanderlewis 2y ago
  True. The world is certainly in trouble. I’m just saying it might not be as bad as it immediately looks.
no_wizard 2y ago
Why wouldn't we take his public rhetoric and actions at face value? Why is this possibly a good idea to simply say 'well in his heart he trusts science' when he is demonstrating the contrary? I don't want to live in fantasy land here. Based on observable actions, Musk isn't brining any positive force to the table
- xanderlewis 2y ago
  Isn’t that obvious? He knew he could only get to the position he’s now in (or at least have the best chance of doing so) if he joined in with the MAGA brigade. He clearly does align with the movement in some ways, but he also is responsible for SpaceX, for example. Don’t you think that marks him out as being a bit different from the others? Also, there are observable actions. If you listen to some of the podcasts he’s been on recently (as painful as they can be) you’ll hear him very flatly rejecting suggestions of quackery and ‘vaccine scepticism’. He’s so obviously not stupid, even if he’s degenerated somewhat, as many of us have, by constant exposure to poisonous social media.

imoverclocked 2y ago

He’s also the rocket guy with private jets.