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Yes, that's true, but the problem is that these past four years have been bad for everybody, so they remember the Trump years as being better than they actually
by astine 2y ago
Yes, that's true, but the problem is that these past four years have been bad for everybody, so they remember the Trump years as being better than they actually were.
- jghn 2y ago> these past four years have been bad for everybody They've been pretty good for some people.
- enraged_camel 2y agoYeah, if you're a high earner living the urban/suburban life you've probably done really well. The problem is that rural turnout was off the charts last night, which what handed Trump the popular vote - something that has not happened with a Republican candidate since 2004.
- jghn 2y agoI agree. But GP said that everybody was feeling pain. That's not true.
- nsxwolf 2y agoAbsolutely not. Inflation hit us very hard and we had to make real lifestyle changes to get back in the black.
- endemic 2y agoI'd love to know the details.
- bcrosby95 2y agoWe got hit too. We adjusted mostly in our eating habits. Moved to zero eating out, more bulk buying, cheaper foods, etc. We're also much more discriminating on what activities we do for the kids. I'm not gonna go all "woe is me" since we're doing fine, but as someone with a family of 5 the discretionary income basically went to zero the last 4 years.
- nsxwolf 2y agoYes, I was going to come back to say basically all of this. We noticed that not only were we no longer saving money, but we weren't even living paycheck to paycheck and had to make all these sorts of changes and cuts to get off a very bad trajectory.
- purple_ferret 2y agoThey've been great for US Stock holders, which basically comprises most of the Upper and Upper Middle Class. In fact, so good, people think anything buy 10-20% yearly gains on assets is bad
- throw_that_away 2y agoI lost my job a few months back, and I feel like the messaging from Harris/Biden was everything's great! Keep doing whatever is happening. Voted for who spoke to me. Every company I join literally has an arm in Mexico, India, Pakistan, Colombia or Ukraine - and it always started feeling like at any minute those people would have my job. And they do. I want an administration that makes it so that those people don't have my job. And yes, I have always been willing to work for a lot less, but all the other Americans want more and more and more, so that it's expected for a programmer in the US to make 200k, so these companies decide to hire someone in Colombia for 80k. I'll take 100 and work a lot closer than that person in Colombia. But no companies here will listen to that. And I'll do it as someone with 20 years of experience. But the only thing people on the left care about, as usual, are issues that actually don't matter. Yes I get it you want Gay rights and you want Abortion rights, but the reality is those things are not going away in the states you're already in. But on the other side, American people are being pushed into a terrible economic state. Go ahead and not listen, HN doesn't. It's WAAAY to left.
- anthonypasq 2y agounemployment was at historic lows, you just got unlucky. idk what to tell you man
- throw_that_away 2y agoExactly what Harris was saying, hence the direction of my vote! Also, 50 job apps and no call backs, this is the WORST economy ever. In 2018, I would submit 3 and get 3 offers at the end of it.
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- islanderfun 2y agoI think the issue is that when people are desperate (lost job, can't pay for needs, etc) critical thinking can be limited to just short term survival mode. Even if it doesn't make sense big picture wise. Democratic party needs to listen and at the very least fluff up a response that people in this situation feel heard. Even if there nothing they can really do. It's all about appeasing emotions.