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> how has Donald Trump served the interests of "working people without a college education" during the four years of his presidency? Uneducated working class f

> how has Donald Trump served the interests of "working people without a college education" during the four years of his presidency? Uneducated working class folks compete with illegal immigrants for jobs and cheap housing. During his presidency illegal immigration was lower and wages rose for the working class and housing costs were relatively stable. He’s also positioned himself as the “law and order” candidate, and crime tends to impact the working class much more than the middle/upper classes. Mostly folks who voted for him voted on the premise that their experience of the economy was better when he was president rather than on the basis of individual policies.

n4r9 2y ago
> During his presidency illegal immigration was lower Is that true? Legal immigration was lower especially during the lockdown (for obvious reasons). But the number of deportations of illegal immigrants barely changed, e.g. https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immi... > wages rose for the working class That happened. And it happened even faster under Biden. > He’s also positioned himself as the “law and order” candidate And yet the murder rate rose to the highest level since 1997. > their experience of the economy was better when he was president I feel like it might be more accurate to say "perception" than "experience".
- bitcurious 2y ago
  >https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensio... Trump’s first term and Obama’s second term were fairly steady, then you see a massive bump under Biden.
  - n4r9 2y ago
    Border patrol apprehensions is very different from illegal immigration! You can't control how mnay people try to get across.
    - kgwgk 2y ago
      https://x.com/SenJohnThune/status/1793001514211967288 https://x.com/SenJohnThune/status/1793001514211967288
    - bitcurious 2y ago
      You actually can, by working the incentives. For the first three years of Biden’s administration one could show up, be apprehended, and be relatively certain that they would be released into the country, where you might be housed and fed. Under later Trump and Biden’s current policy, you are released into Mexico.

n4r9 2y ago

> During his presidency illegal immigration was lower Is that true? Legal immigration was lower especially during the lockdown (for obvious reasons). But the number of deportations of illegal immigrants barely changed, e.g. https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immi... > wages rose for the working class That happened. And it happened even faster under Biden. > He’s also positioned himself as the “law and order” candidate And yet the murder rate rose to the highest level since 1997. > their experience of the economy was better when he was president I feel like it might be more accurate to say "perception" than "experience".

bitcurious 2y ago
>https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensio... Trump’s first term and Obama’s second term were fairly steady, then you see a massive bump under Biden.
- n4r9 2y ago
  Border patrol apprehensions is very different from illegal immigration! You can't control how mnay people try to get across.
  - kgwgk 2y ago
    https://x.com/SenJohnThune/status/1793001514211967288 https://x.com/SenJohnThune/status/1793001514211967288
  - bitcurious 2y ago
    You actually can, by working the incentives. For the first three years of Biden’s administration one could show up, be apprehended, and be relatively certain that they would be released into the country, where you might be housed and fed. Under later Trump and Biden’s current policy, you are released into Mexico.