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Transgender people

by doom2 2y ago

Transgender people

fastball 2y ago
Hate is a fairly strong word. I think a more accurate description of the Republican stance on transgenderism at the moment is "don't want to support it at all". And even then, that is almost entirely in reference to children. But it sounds like OP can perfectly well support themselves, so not sure that would be an issue as a member of that group.
- pix128 2y ago
  This is just not accurate.
  - fastball 2y ago
    Feel free to expand on that.
    - fazeirony 2y ago
      again, the GOP in the months leading up to the election spent more on anti-trans rhetoric than all other issues combined, including immigration and the economy. if you saw any of these ads and the literal hate being spewed, you maybe would understand better.
      - fastball 2y ago
        I haven't seen these ads, happy for you to link them (as I said in my other comment).
        fazeirony 2y ago
        linked them in a reply to your other comment
brodouevencode 2y ago
For most of the right, as I hear it: if the trans community left the kids alone and trans women didn't insist on playing sports (especially contact sports) with biological women, they really wouldn't care.
- wetmore 2y ago
  I don't know if you saw the "Kamela is for the/them" ads, but they stoke a much more general fear and hatred of trans people than the issues you are referring to. Those issues are picked because they are most popular amongst a broad swathe of the electorate, but they are couched in a deeper hate and distrust.
  - brodouevencode 2y ago
    I probably did see them and just forgot about it because it's a political ad. I can tell you, living in a fairly red area, these are the only concerns I've heard from friends/family/people in my church and community. They don't _care_ what trans people do to themselves but have strong opinions on that they're being forced to not only accept but agree with that lifestyle.
- deathanatos 2y ago
  A central tenant of the mainstream LGBTQ community is to "live authentically". That tenant cuts both ways, in that nobody in the trans community is going to force someone to be trans — they wouldn't be "living authentically" if someone were forcing them to be trans. I've seen this point expressed in the LGBTQ community countless times outside of political discussion, usually to someone who is self-questioning, and asking someone else if they're gay/trans/etc., which is community, more often than not, will respond to with "we can't decide that for you." As for hatred of trans people: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cpac-speaker-transgender-people-eradicated-1234690924/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cpac-spe... The last political ad I saw, and it was endorsed by Trump, featured a segment furthering the conspiracies around Imane Khelif, implying she was a man, etc.
  - 2y ago

Transgender people

by doom2 2y ago

Transgender people

Hate is a fairly strong word. I think a more accurate description of the Republican stance on transgenderism at the moment is "don't want to support it at all". And even then, that is almost entirely in reference to children. But it sounds like OP can perfectly well support themselves, so not sure that would be an issue as a member of that group.

pix128 2y ago
This is just not accurate.
- fastball 2y ago
  Feel free to expand on that.
  - fazeirony 2y ago
    again, the GOP in the months leading up to the election spent more on anti-trans rhetoric than all other issues combined, including immigration and the economy. if you saw any of these ads and the literal hate being spewed, you maybe would understand better.
    - fastball 2y ago
      I haven't seen these ads, happy for you to link them (as I said in my other comment).
      - fazeirony 2y ago
        linked them in a reply to your other comment

brodouevencode 2y ago

For most of the right, as I hear it: if the trans community left the kids alone and trans women didn't insist on playing sports (especially contact sports) with biological women, they really wouldn't care.

wetmore 2y ago
I don't know if you saw the "Kamela is for the/them" ads, but they stoke a much more general fear and hatred of trans people than the issues you are referring to. Those issues are picked because they are most popular amongst a broad swathe of the electorate, but they are couched in a deeper hate and distrust.
- brodouevencode 2y ago
  I probably did see them and just forgot about it because it's a political ad. I can tell you, living in a fairly red area, these are the only concerns I've heard from friends/family/people in my church and community. They don't _care_ what trans people do to themselves but have strong opinions on that they're being forced to not only accept but agree with that lifestyle.
deathanatos 2y ago
A central tenant of the mainstream LGBTQ community is to "live authentically". That tenant cuts both ways, in that nobody in the trans community is going to force someone to be trans — they wouldn't be "living authentically" if someone were forcing them to be trans. I've seen this point expressed in the LGBTQ community countless times outside of political discussion, usually to someone who is self-questioning, and asking someone else if they're gay/trans/etc., which is community, more often than not, will respond to with "we can't decide that for you." As for hatred of trans people: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cpac-speaker-transgender-people-eradicated-1234690924/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cpac-spe... The last political ad I saw, and it was endorsed by Trump, featured a segment furthering the conspiracies around Imane Khelif, implying she was a man, etc.
- 2y ago