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There's 2x the amount of border apprehensions under Biden than Trump. I'm sure more people are trying to get into the country under Biden than trump so let's sa

There's 2x the amount of border apprehensions under Biden than Trump. I'm sure more people are trying to get into the country under Biden than trump so let's say the control is pretty even but not uncontrolled. https://usafacts.org/topics/immigration-border-security/ https://usafacts.org/topics/immigration-border-security/

ImJamal 2y ago
The number of border apprehensions is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is the number of illegals who enter the country. If 0 illegal immigrants enter the country that would mean there are 0 border apprehensions. Would that mean the border was less secured? Everything indicates there were less illegal border crossings under Trump than Biden https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2024/02/11/trump-biden-immigration-border-compared/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2024/02/11/trump-...
- lancesells 2y ago
  The parent comment said "uncontrolled". It also boggles the mind that immigrants are the issue while the 1% own as much as the entire middle class, while the bottom class owns nothing at all. When you pay more for groceries, or rent, or gas do you think it's the immigrants making it expensive?
  - arandomusername 2y ago
    What do you think illegal border crossings are if not uncontrolled immigration? Cost of groceries/gas are a separate issue. Does not mean immigration isn't. And do you think immigrants do not make rent more expensive? If you increase the demand, without increasing the supply, what do you think happens?
  - ImJamal 2y ago
    You are sounding a bit demeaning. Do you really think people are only capable of caring about one issue? Regardless, immigration can harm the poor by having increased competition for low paying jobs. Bernie Sanders called open borders a Koch brothers plan to get cheap labor. This is especially true of illegal immigration since they will naturally be paid less because there is a legal risk.
hersko 2y ago
And what happens after the migrants are "apprehended?" Saying there are more apprehensions is meaningless.

ImJamal 2y ago

The number of border apprehensions is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is the number of illegals who enter the country. If 0 illegal immigrants enter the country that would mean there are 0 border apprehensions. Would that mean the border was less secured? Everything indicates there were less illegal border crossings under Trump than Biden https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2024/02/11/trump-biden-immigration-border-compared/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2024/02/11/trump-...

lancesells 2y ago
The parent comment said "uncontrolled". It also boggles the mind that immigrants are the issue while the 1% own as much as the entire middle class, while the bottom class owns nothing at all. When you pay more for groceries, or rent, or gas do you think it's the immigrants making it expensive?
- arandomusername 2y ago
  What do you think illegal border crossings are if not uncontrolled immigration? Cost of groceries/gas are a separate issue. Does not mean immigration isn't. And do you think immigrants do not make rent more expensive? If you increase the demand, without increasing the supply, what do you think happens?
- ImJamal 2y ago
  You are sounding a bit demeaning. Do you really think people are only capable of caring about one issue? Regardless, immigration can harm the poor by having increased competition for low paying jobs. Bernie Sanders called open borders a Koch brothers plan to get cheap labor. This is especially true of illegal immigration since they will naturally be paid less because there is a legal risk.

hersko 2y ago

And what happens after the migrants are "apprehended?" Saying there are more apprehensions is meaningless.