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Remind me again - who in the history of the world has ever not been ok with abortion to save the mother?

by zpeti 2y ago

bhickey 2y ago
https://www.propublica.org/article/josseli-barnica-death-miscarriage-texas-abortion-ban https://www.propublica.org/article/josseli-barnica-death-mis... https://www.propublica.org/article/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-abortion-ban-emtala https://www.propublica.org/article/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar
nindalf 2y ago
I remember a notable Irish case where a mother died because the doctors refused to perform an abortion. Led to a constitutional change. Woman dies after abortion request 'refused' at Galway hospital (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-20321741.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-20321741.amp). There have been cases like this in America but I’m not going to look it up. Fortunately the other commenter did. Hope this changed your opinion :)
gabrielhidasy 2y ago
A few very religious people, but I don't think any of those had traction to get that into law in the US recently.
Retric 2y ago
The line isn’t clear cut as risk isn’t a guarantee. Multiple US woman have already died when doctors where unwilling to intervene despite significant issues being present. There’s a lot of politics involved but as an example Josseli Barnica died in 2021 before row vs wade was overturned with doctors refusing to act over legal concerns despite clear and significant issues.
jampekka 2y ago
You're vastly underestimating how cruel people can get, especially when they are on religion. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/21/us/abortion-ban-exceptions.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/21/us/abortion-b...
ZeroGravitas 2y ago
What do you think those "9-month abortions” people talk about are for?

Remind me again - who in the history of the world has ever not been ok with abortion to save the mother?

by zpeti 2y ago

Remind me again - who in the history of the world has ever not been ok with abortion to save the mother?

https://www.propublica.org/article/josseli-barnica-death-miscarriage-texas-abortion-ban https://www.propublica.org/article/josseli-barnica-death-mis... https://www.propublica.org/article/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-abortion-ban-emtala https://www.propublica.org/article/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

nindalf 2y ago

I remember a notable Irish case where a mother died because the doctors refused to perform an abortion. Led to a constitutional change. Woman dies after abortion request 'refused' at Galway hospital (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-20321741.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-20321741.amp). There have been cases like this in America but I’m not going to look it up. Fortunately the other commenter did. Hope this changed your opinion :)

gabrielhidasy 2y ago

A few very religious people, but I don't think any of those had traction to get that into law in the US recently.

Retric 2y ago

The line isn’t clear cut as risk isn’t a guarantee. Multiple US woman have already died when doctors where unwilling to intervene despite significant issues being present. There’s a lot of politics involved but as an example Josseli Barnica died in 2021 before row vs wade was overturned with doctors refusing to act over legal concerns despite clear and significant issues.

jampekka 2y ago

You're vastly underestimating how cruel people can get, especially when they are on religion. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/21/us/abortion-ban-exceptions.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/21/us/abortion-b...

ZeroGravitas 2y ago

What do you think those "9-month abortions” people talk about are for?