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You just gotta laugh at this point. It wasn't even that close so people have spoken. What hopefully we all have learnt from this is that average American is mos

by tekkk 2y ago

You just gotta laugh at this point. It wasn't even that close so people have spoken. What hopefully we all have learnt from this is that average American is mostly concerned with themselves and how their lives can get better. For others, boo-hoo. Especially with this economy. And I wish the politics would move towards less vitriol. It's just sad how both parties are so dug in with their opinions. I'm sure there could have been reasonable discussions with regards to eg economy and immigration where the concerns of the large portion of the population had been seriously addressed. Being practical isn't a fault, in fact one of the things I think Mr Trump got elected. We'll see does it translate to reality but he definitely has ideas.

Ylpertnodi 2y ago
>he definitely has ideas. 'Concepts', he has 'concepts'. You'll hear about them in about two weeks time.
- steve_adams_86 2y ago
  I worry that these concepts are actually already fleshed out, but having not said anything about them already, he had free rein to implement whatever he wants since no one voted on a campaign promise.
sanderjd 2y ago
Politics is not going to move toward less vitriol until the primary source of that vitriol exits the stage... Unfortunately he was just elected to a new four year term.
- tekkk 2y ago
  That's true... It's hard to make sense of it. But I suppose you can try to just skip that part, not get triggered by it, and just focus on practical issues and explanations why things are such. Inflation is high because of Covid aid et cetera. I though personally believe this was mostly just Covid & immigration fallout and not really tied to Trump per se. Could have been almost anybody with those talking points with a sprinkle of charisma and they would have won. Assassination attempt helped probably as well.
  - sanderjd 2y ago
    Yep! You and I don't disagree. I think Trump has been extremely lucky, first in running against Clinton with a late assist from Comey, and now running against the pandemic recovery. But those lucky breaks have also made his vitriol a big part of our politics, which is a shame.
- xnx 2y ago
  > until the primary source of that vitriol exits the stage Rupert Murdoch?
  - sanderjd 2y ago
    Ha, I agree that used to be true.

by tekkk 2y ago

Ylpertnodi 2y ago

>he definitely has ideas. 'Concepts', he has 'concepts'. You'll hear about them in about two weeks time.

steve_adams_86 2y ago
I worry that these concepts are actually already fleshed out, but having not said anything about them already, he had free rein to implement whatever he wants since no one voted on a campaign promise.

sanderjd 2y ago

Politics is not going to move toward less vitriol until the primary source of that vitriol exits the stage... Unfortunately he was just elected to a new four year term.

tekkk 2y ago
That's true... It's hard to make sense of it. But I suppose you can try to just skip that part, not get triggered by it, and just focus on practical issues and explanations why things are such. Inflation is high because of Covid aid et cetera. I though personally believe this was mostly just Covid & immigration fallout and not really tied to Trump per se. Could have been almost anybody with those talking points with a sprinkle of charisma and they would have won. Assassination attempt helped probably as well.
- sanderjd 2y ago
  Yep! You and I don't disagree. I think Trump has been extremely lucky, first in running against Clinton with a late assist from Comey, and now running against the pandemic recovery. But those lucky breaks have also made his vitriol a big part of our politics, which is a shame.
xnx 2y ago
> until the primary source of that vitriol exits the stage Rupert Murdoch?
- sanderjd 2y ago
  Ha, I agree that used to be true.