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The republicans I know have pretty varying opinions on those two wars. One pretty common thread is that they don't want us involved though, regardless of which

The republicans I know have pretty varying opinions on those two wars. One pretty common thread is that they don't want us involved though, regardless of which side of the wars they align with.

philistine 2y ago
Ultimately those opinions will not matter. The president has full control of the State department and will align with the autocrats who stroke his ego: Putin and Netanyahu. Expect the money to stop flowing to Ukraine, and to keep going to Israel, and try to divine a logic for that.
- _heimdall 2y ago
  Thankfully the state department doesn't hold the purse strings, though the democratic party did so poorly that Congress may still be willing to approve whatever spending the Trump wants.
TOMDM 2y ago
Then call them what they are, isolationists not anti war then. Carrying water for Russia's invasion of Ukraine; opposing aid for Ukraine is incompatible.
- _heimdall 2y ago
  Sure, you could call them isolation if you prefer. Many of the republicans I know sit in a gray area in between, they definitely don't want us involved but they also don't have a strong opinion on the wars either way and see them as someone else's fight. That definitely isn't the main narrative I see in the media, but I personally know very few republicans who care strongly about one side of either war. That view is a bit like a libertarian anti-war view in my opinion. Its antiwar without attempting to get involved in anyone else's business.
  - navigate8310 2y ago
    Basically questioning tax-money spendings
Forgeties79 2y ago
Trump is going to send more money and armaments to Israel and not one of them will object because he will abandon Ukraine and they’ll all hold that up as an amazing thing.
- _heimdall 2y ago
  Maybe, at which point I expect their being pretty hypocritical. I wouldn't begin to say one side of either war is in the absolute right or wrong though. War is messy, terrible, and bloody. It'd never as simply as right vs wrong or good vs evil.
  - Forgeties79 2y ago
    When has hypocrisy ever caused self reflection when people are playing the team sport that is politics? It’s always “your hypocrisy is worse than my hypocrisy” because even if they admit the hypocrisy exists (not a given) they just chalk it up to “both sides.“ We’ve seen this song and dance for a decade straight.
cglace 2y ago
All of the Trump voters I know think we should obliterate Iran.
- cynicalpeace 2y ago
  Here's 1 that doesn't think that. Maybe you just don't know enough Trump voters?
  - cglace 2y ago
    I live in Georgia; my family is from South Carolina, North Carolina, and Florida. Try again.
- _heimdall 2y ago
  Well that's interesting. I live in a very red area and have never heard this. At best I could hear it said as a joke, I don't know anyone that would actually think we should do that.

The republicans I know have pretty varying opinions on those two wars. One pretty common thread is that they don't want us involved though, regardless of which side of the wars they align with.

philistine 2y ago

Ultimately those opinions will not matter. The president has full control of the State department and will align with the autocrats who stroke his ego: Putin and Netanyahu. Expect the money to stop flowing to Ukraine, and to keep going to Israel, and try to divine a logic for that.

_heimdall 2y ago
Thankfully the state department doesn't hold the purse strings, though the democratic party did so poorly that Congress may still be willing to approve whatever spending the Trump wants.

TOMDM 2y ago

Then call them what they are, isolationists not anti war then. Carrying water for Russia's invasion of Ukraine; opposing aid for Ukraine is incompatible.

_heimdall 2y ago
Sure, you could call them isolation if you prefer. Many of the republicans I know sit in a gray area in between, they definitely don't want us involved but they also don't have a strong opinion on the wars either way and see them as someone else's fight. That definitely isn't the main narrative I see in the media, but I personally know very few republicans who care strongly about one side of either war. That view is a bit like a libertarian anti-war view in my opinion. Its antiwar without attempting to get involved in anyone else's business.
- navigate8310 2y ago
  Basically questioning tax-money spendings

Forgeties79 2y ago

Trump is going to send more money and armaments to Israel and not one of them will object because he will abandon Ukraine and they’ll all hold that up as an amazing thing.

_heimdall 2y ago
Maybe, at which point I expect their being pretty hypocritical. I wouldn't begin to say one side of either war is in the absolute right or wrong though. War is messy, terrible, and bloody. It'd never as simply as right vs wrong or good vs evil.
- Forgeties79 2y ago
  When has hypocrisy ever caused self reflection when people are playing the team sport that is politics? It’s always “your hypocrisy is worse than my hypocrisy” because even if they admit the hypocrisy exists (not a given) they just chalk it up to “both sides.“ We’ve seen this song and dance for a decade straight.

cglace 2y ago

All of the Trump voters I know think we should obliterate Iran.

cynicalpeace 2y ago
Here's 1 that doesn't think that. Maybe you just don't know enough Trump voters?
- cglace 2y ago
  I live in Georgia; my family is from South Carolina, North Carolina, and Florida. Try again.
_heimdall 2y ago
Well that's interesting. I live in a very red area and have never heard this. At best I could hear it said as a joke, I don't know anyone that would actually think we should do that.