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Did that really happen though? or did the right just amplify those messages because they're very effective to campaign on? and now everyone just repeats them. M
by siffin 2y ago
Did that really happen though? or did the right just amplify those messages because they're very effective to campaign on? and now everyone just repeats them. Maybe even making a lot of young men feel even more despondent and useless in the process.
Kinda funny how the moment real progress is made on trying to give anyone other than males a hand up, they start crying like babies about how they're not getting enough attention. Meanwhile, those same men are literally stripping away women's rights to their own body.
- stogot 2y ago[flagged]
- mastersummoner 2y agoI'm an informed, white, male Democrat and I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
- stogot 2y agoIt’s not always in the news but I’ll share an article by a democrat that summarizes a lot of the positions: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-ideas-that-are-reshaping-the-democratic-party-and-america/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-ideas-that-are-resh... those opinions (your privileged) become “shut up” and “you should be ashamed” in public discourse (I’ve seen it) Your welcome to search for the reverse racism and DEI lawsuits if you think this does not impact people in practice
- sofixa 2y agoThat's a random journalist, what the hell does he have to do with the democratic party and "the left"?
- slothtrop 2y agoBecause to them people on Twitter and the DNC are the same thing.
- stogot 2y agoAnother ad hominem attack vs addressing substance
- sofixa 2y agoWhat substance? Random people's opinions online are not representative of whole political parties or movements or groups of people.... Hell, pro-Trump people were crying foul when the words of an opening act for Trump were associated with Trump and friends (that Puerto Rico is an island of garbage), this is infinitely more unrelated.
- stogot 2y agoThe article summarizes the positions of the Left, by a Left-leaning news org. The article is not about the positions of the the journalist. What more do you want? Harris's isn’t going to write this herself
- sofixa 2y agoYou're taking an opinion piece summarising viewpoints people on the left are supposedly favourable to as the official position of a political party in the opposite way (e.g. you seem to think that agreeing that there is institutional sexism against women means that you want to be sexist against men or that men in general should be shamed for being men, which is, of course, bullshit). If you have this absurd stance, what do you think about the literal words of high profile republican politicians? JD Vance comparing Trump to Hitler? Trump misquoting Mein Kampf? Trump saying he'll deport 20 million people? Trump expressing violent misogyny (grab them right by the pussy)? Trump saying he'll save women if they want it or not? Blatant racism against black and latino people? Those are direct positions of the actual candidates. Wildly more representative than an opinion summary by a journalist.
- gizzlon 2y agoThat's actually a really interesting article, thanks. No idea if it was written by a democrat tough, I mean it might be, but that's not important. > those opinions (your privileged) become “shut up” and “you should be ashamed” in public discourse (I’ve seen it) Yes, aren't those the extremists online? So what? I have never ever heard Harris or Biden talk like that.
- tekknik 2y ago[flagged]
- mixmastamyk 2y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42060280 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42060280
- siffin 2y agoI have never had anyone tell me as a white male that I should be ashamed of myself, not least from the left. What I have been recently is very impressed by female talent in all sorts of industries, which makes me ponder how much we've lost holding them back all this time.
- tekknik 2y agoLikely because you’ve sheltered yourself from it. I have been told on HN even that I’m privileged (implying I should be ashamed or aware of such privilege). Also all that recently about how racism is alive and well and it’s our fault.
- beaviskhan 2y agoIf you are a white male (I am) then you almost certainly ARE privileged at some level and imo should be aware of that. This is a completely separate matter from being ashamed of said privilege (I don't think this is reasonable or productive), or being held responsible for racism in general (obviously ridiculous unless you are right now a bona fide racist). But that level of nuance doesn't fit neatly in a 30 second inflammatory commercial.
- tekknik 2y agoyea see you doubled down. i’m a military veteran from a poor family with no college degree and have made my own way my entire life. we are done with identity politics. keep it up and be left behind.
- beaviskhan 2y ago"done with identity politics" "military veteran from a poor family with no college degree" okaaaay.
- tekknik 2y agoyea? anything with substance to say? do you not believe Im a veteran? or maybe the degree? or maybe that I came from a poor family? which is it and why would someone lie about that? or maybe your world view was shattered? also do you know what Stolen Valor is?
- latentcall 2y agoThis doesn’t happen in real life, outside. This happens on Twitter. I know it’s difficult to understand the difference for some people.
- stogot 2y agoIt happens in real life too, in the workplace. People parrot what they hear online, but I guess you’re only on Twitter and haven’t seen it then