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If Hamas had not attacked Israel, trump probably would have lost. Plenty of people just didn't go out to vote this time, abstaining because they only care that

If Hamas had not attacked Israel, trump probably would have lost. Plenty of people just didn't go out to vote this time, abstaining because they only care that Biden and Harris support Israel. Talk about cutting off their nose to spite their face.

alephnerd 2y ago
This hypothesis doesn't pan out when looking at states that flipped Blue to Red. The biggest reason for Trump's win is the fact that 50% of Latinos, 46% of Asians, and 20% of African Americans voted for Trump - all significant increases compared to 2020. And the biggest reason for that flip is because of Illegal Immigration and Inflation - for legal immigrants illegal immigration is basically a big F-you for following the correct path, and inflation has had a general impact nationwide.
- mango7283 2y ago
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  - alephnerd 2y ago
    I'm Asian... And my dad flipped to Trump for those very reasons. The Trump team built a very strong minority outreach apparatus, and actually microtargeted based on ethnicity. The Dems were not granular enough so their messaging didn't land.
    - mango7283 2y ago
      From the outside looking in sometimes I wonder if it's the democrats that are the ones that "have a black friend" and use minorities as props, not the republicans...
      - leptons 2y ago
        I doubt you have a single black person that would call you a friend.
        mango7283 2y ago
        No I don't, and even in my own context (I'm not American) I don't have much friends outside my own background - but I do know what it's like to see people perform performative "inclusion" and throw (insert group here) under the bus when said group doesn't do what they want them to do - in case it wasn't clear my comments were based on how quickly some people were quick to go "I hope those (minority voters that went trump) get a taste of what they voted for"
Tainnor 2y ago
Statistics show that Israel/Palestine wasn't really an important issue for voters on either side.
potato3732842 2y ago
"my workplace does not allow open toed shoes" class Americans all over the political spectrum are sooooo much more sick of the foreign wars the "everyone in my workplace has some sort of college degree" class Americans think they are.
- dtquad 2y ago
  Not really. There is a reason Ron Paul didn't win in 2008 and 2012 despite dominating early social media.
  - potato3732842 2y ago
    No matter how dank the memes no 3rd party meme candidate will ever win. The two big parties are just too rich and powerful and you need the support of one of them to have a legitimate chance.
vagrantJin 2y ago
You write like those people are wrong on not wanting to support a very clear and blatant genocide by a foreign belligerent state.
- inemesitaffia 2y ago
  You do know Trump will deliver whatever Netanyahu wants right?
  - vagrantJin 2y ago
    Yeah. He will.

alephnerd 2y ago

This hypothesis doesn't pan out when looking at states that flipped Blue to Red. The biggest reason for Trump's win is the fact that 50% of Latinos, 46% of Asians, and 20% of African Americans voted for Trump - all significant increases compared to 2020. And the biggest reason for that flip is because of Illegal Immigration and Inflation - for legal immigrants illegal immigration is basically a big F-you for following the correct path, and inflation has had a general impact nationwide.

mango7283 2y ago
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- alephnerd 2y ago
  I'm Asian... And my dad flipped to Trump for those very reasons. The Trump team built a very strong minority outreach apparatus, and actually microtargeted based on ethnicity. The Dems were not granular enough so their messaging didn't land.
  - mango7283 2y ago
    From the outside looking in sometimes I wonder if it's the democrats that are the ones that "have a black friend" and use minorities as props, not the republicans...
    - leptons 2y ago
      I doubt you have a single black person that would call you a friend.
      - mango7283 2y ago
        No I don't, and even in my own context (I'm not American) I don't have much friends outside my own background - but I do know what it's like to see people perform performative "inclusion" and throw (insert group here) under the bus when said group doesn't do what they want them to do - in case it wasn't clear my comments were based on how quickly some people were quick to go "I hope those (minority voters that went trump) get a taste of what they voted for"

Tainnor 2y ago

Statistics show that Israel/Palestine wasn't really an important issue for voters on either side.

potato3732842 2y ago

"my workplace does not allow open toed shoes" class Americans all over the political spectrum are sooooo much more sick of the foreign wars the "everyone in my workplace has some sort of college degree" class Americans think they are.

dtquad 2y ago
Not really. There is a reason Ron Paul didn't win in 2008 and 2012 despite dominating early social media.
- potato3732842 2y ago
  No matter how dank the memes no 3rd party meme candidate will ever win. The two big parties are just too rich and powerful and you need the support of one of them to have a legitimate chance.

vagrantJin 2y ago

You write like those people are wrong on not wanting to support a very clear and blatant genocide by a foreign belligerent state.

inemesitaffia 2y ago
You do know Trump will deliver whatever Netanyahu wants right?
- vagrantJin 2y ago
  Yeah. He will.