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An unsurprising result. There is a worrying global rise in right-wing popularism and this is part of it. We can look forward to more war, more crime, more suff

An unsurprising result. There is a worrying global rise in right-wing popularism and this is part of it. We can look forward to more war, more crime, more suffering, more scapegoating of minorities. This is the start of a long decline that ends in death and destruction. That Harris and Trump were apparently the best that the US political machine could spew up as choices to run one of the most powerful countries in the world is concerning in itself. Just shows how severely politics is broken in the US.

max51 2y ago
>We can look forward to more war Do you really believe the Dems would do less war? They are literally siding with Dick Cheney. They were always very pro-war (eg. Hilary Clinton) but now they don't even hide it and they are embracing the whole "security through strength" and "escalation to de-escalate" in the middle east. If you look back at the past few presidency (incl. Obama), Trump was far more peaceful. He was the first president in a very long time to not invade a new country. I don't think he does it out of love or empathy, I suspect he just thinks it's a waste of money, but the end result is the same.
- ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 2y ago
  The admin nearly started a war with Iran. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93United_States_relations#2019_escalation_in_tensions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93United_States_rel... https://theintercept.com/2018/03/23/heres-john-bolton-promising-regime-change-iran-end-2018/ https://theintercept.com/2018/03/23/heres-john-bolton-promis... And, in general: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Shayrat_missile_strike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Shayrat_missile_strike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Inherent_Resolve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Inherent_Resolve (Trump continued the Obama admin policies in the middle east) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Donald_Trump_administration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Donald_T... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_Donald_Trump_during_the_2016_presidential_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_Donald_Trump... All evidence points to Trump supporting Russia in its expansionist efforts, which means more war, not less. Trump had nationalistic parades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Salute_to_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Salute_to_America I mean, you can make an argument based on speculation, but we have the evidence of what has happened in the past.
- aguaviva 2y ago
  Do you really believe the Dems would do less war? They are literally siding with Dick Cheney. And guess what? During the Iraq War, Trump sided with Dick Cheney as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42074276 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42074276

max51 2y ago

>We can look forward to more war Do you really believe the Dems would do less war? They are literally siding with Dick Cheney. They were always very pro-war (eg. Hilary Clinton) but now they don't even hide it and they are embracing the whole "security through strength" and "escalation to de-escalate" in the middle east. If you look back at the past few presidency (incl. Obama), Trump was far more peaceful. He was the first president in a very long time to not invade a new country. I don't think he does it out of love or empathy, I suspect he just thinks it's a waste of money, but the end result is the same.

ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 2y ago
The admin nearly started a war with Iran. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93United_States_relations#2019_escalation_in_tensions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93United_States_rel... https://theintercept.com/2018/03/23/heres-john-bolton-promising-regime-change-iran-end-2018/ https://theintercept.com/2018/03/23/heres-john-bolton-promis... And, in general: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Shayrat_missile_strike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Shayrat_missile_strike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Inherent_Resolve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Inherent_Resolve (Trump continued the Obama admin policies in the middle east) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Donald_Trump_administration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Donald_T... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_Donald_Trump_during_the_2016_presidential_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_Donald_Trump... All evidence points to Trump supporting Russia in its expansionist efforts, which means more war, not less. Trump had nationalistic parades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Salute_to_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Salute_to_America I mean, you can make an argument based on speculation, but we have the evidence of what has happened in the past.
aguaviva 2y ago
Do you really believe the Dems would do less war? They are literally siding with Dick Cheney. And guess what? During the Iraq War, Trump sided with Dick Cheney as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42074276 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42074276