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by kookamamie 2y ago
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- ryukoposting 2y agoHell if I know. - Wisconsin
- jeffhuys 2y agoAmerica, thank you. Regards, Europe. (You can't talk for all of Europe.)
- stouset 2y ago[flagged]
- oytis 2y agoEurope is doing the same though.
- DeathArrow 2y agoHopefully.
- ben_w 2y agoI don't claim perfect knowledge of the 30-ish countries in Europe, but I've not heard of any of us reelecting a double-impeached convicted felon where the impeachments were for (1) abuse of power and obstruction of Congress and (2) incitement of insurrection; and the 34 felonies he's been convicted for were related to misreporting finances related to hush money relevant to a potential scandal that could have influenced the 2016 election, while also being on trial for another 54 related to mishandling of classified documents. Even Boris Johnson didn't mange all that mess.
- oytis 2y agoDetails might differ, the big picture is pretty much the same. The left-wing are shy and try not to annoy the voter base by being too radical, while the right-wing are getting more aggressive and outspoken. And still the right-wing mostly win the elections. Literal fascists in Italy, right-wing populists in Hungary, Slovakia and Netherlands. And the upcoming elections in Germany is not going to be very good either - we basically get to vote between right-wing traitors and just right-wingers. People en-masse don't value freedom, human rights or rule of law any more, I wouldn't think there are any hurdles to get Europeans to vote convicted felons either.
- throw_m239339 2y agoMy Ukrainian friends want the war to stop at all cost, they are on the brink and all help goes to the military effort... my friends in Lvov can't feed themselves and have to go dig mushrooms... they don't care who wins, they just want peace. NATO sustaining that war just to save face isn't peace. Trump is an opportunity to end that war the democrats have sustained.
- dbspin 2y agoFellow European here - I think we have different Ukranian friends. All mine were bitterly frustrated at Biden's failure to properly support them militarily, and resigned to having to fight to the death if Trump orders they secede to Russia. There is zero popular support in Ukraine for 'giving up', since it would likely mean mass murder, and the end of Ukraine as an independent state.
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- kookamamie 2y agoI want the Ukraine war to stop, too. However, I do not want it to stop at any cost, if that means that Ukraine will need to surrender its land to Moscow and to agree to being part of Russia (again). This will send the wrong signal to Putin, and prove his model of acquiring buffer areas around Russia actually works - next on the list are the Baltics, and Moldova perhaps. I'm going to be in the trenches as soon as they get ideas about Finland - and you do not want that.
- scrollaway 2y agoEuropean here (French, been helping Ukraine since the full scale invasion started). We have no business relying on the US anymore. They are too far gone. Their political rhethorics are polluted by Russian propaganda. (Just look at the rest of the comments here...) It's time to get busy defending ourselves. Time for a war effort that doesn't involve merely wearing flag pins or doing cute street protests. We need to be funding our own defence. We need to be sending actual troops in Ukraine, not just weapons. No more of this sidelines bullshit.
- baq 2y agoLike Europe didn't have issues with democracy and general economy. Regards, an European.
- DeathArrow 2y agoEconomically Europe is pretty much doomed.
- DavidPiper 2y agoSource(s)? (Serious question, not a European)
- jansan 2y agoGermany is in a slow death spiral. What you are seeing right now is basically the scene from Animal Farm where Boxer, the working horse, has been injured [1]. The burden on the productively working citizens is growing, because money is required to finance the migration policy, oversized healthcare system, the huge pension payments for the ageing population (there is no pension fund) and government spending. Also, tax revenue is shrinking(!). The current government is asleep at the steering wheel, so industry may continue to leave the country, which will again reduce tax revenue, so the government will have to further increase the burden on the productive sector, which will again result in weakening the economy. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xzklsnBTzc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xzklsnBTzc
- depr 2y agoFiscally conservative countries (Germany, the Netherlands and others in the Frugal Four) in the EU have for a long time preached countries must "balance their budgets". Now Germany balanced too hard and didn't invest enough, their car companies are experiencing a decline while the Chinese companies are growing, and the rest of their industry got addicted to cheap gas which isn't available anymore. The UK left the EU. And the EU is incapable of creating large tech companies.
- RMPR 2y agoOne data point is the debt crisis France found itself in. https://www.euronews.com/business/2024/10/11/frances-emergency-budget-to-address-debt-crisis-economists-react https://www.euronews.com/business/2024/10/11/frances-emergen...
- VonGuard 2y agoBeing incredibly stupid. Example: I heard the leader of the West Coast Vintage Computer Club remark, recently "Well, the problem is the Department of Education! We need to get rid of that!"
- kookamamie 2y agoThe entire Project 2025 gives me chills, to be honest. I know Trump has distanced himself from it previously, but who knows what will he actually do when given the keys to the country.
- VonGuard 2y agoThe dumber the people, the more they love Trump. It's a legit strategy, but I never thought people who'd benefited from American' education would buy into this shit and pull up the ladder!
- lupusreal 2y agoThe working class is struggling to afford eggs and incumbent party campaigned on social stuff and the opposition's shitty personal history. Things people don't give a fuck about if they can't afford eggs.
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- eecc 2y agoWait, what’s this meme? Wasn’t the price of eggs something big in Russia? https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/in-moscows-shadows/id1510124746?i=1000640794168 https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/in-moscows-shadows/id1...
- konart 2y agoButter. Prices for butter climed so high we have to import it from UAE.
- twixfel 2y agoHow much are eggs in the US? I just did some googling and I assume the sources are wrong because all the prices they quote for eggs are really low.
- card_zero 2y agoThey more than doubled in price in December, and now they cost the same as in the UK, it's tragic.
- twixfel 2y agoDoesn't sounds like they're unaffordable to working class people at all then. They're affordable in the UK and working class Americans are richer than working class Brits.
- teractiveodular 2y ago
- jgrahamc 2y agoI'm European and I 100% disagree with the characterization that I'm sitting here thinking "America, what are you doing?".
- n4r9 2y agoTo be fair, you're not a typical European (or Brit). Out of curiosity what are you thinking?
- tomrod 2y agoI can't speak for OP, but typically "Refugee Bad" is a stance I see regularly among rightwingers. We really do need a rebuild of the Civilian Conservation Corp, which built out massive infrastructure in the US. Not Potemkim style infra like ghost cities, but infra that is needed and useful. Bridges, dams, solar and wind, dikes, etc. Paired with effective economic and trade policy and you get a golden age for a few decades. People contributing to the economy and building infrastructure results in a lot of knock on benefits.
- jgrahamc 2y agoThe comment I responded to could be interpreted as "America, I don't understand what you're doing" or "America, I disagree strongly with what you're doing". I was responding to the former. I am simply unsurprised by the result. It was obvious for a long time that he had a good chance of winning and appealed to a lot of people. The result is likely going to show him winning the electoral college and the popular vote. Sounds like democracy doing its thing.
- n4r9 2y agoI understand. After the assassination attempt I was sure Trump would get an easy win, but then Harris replaced Biden and the polls reversed, and I guess I got my hopes up.
- arp242 2y agoIt wasn't surprising based on the polls, no, but I'm fairly sure the "what are you doing?" was intended as a "what's wrong with you?" (or: "I don't understand what you're doing") rather than "I'm surprised". I'm pretty sure plenty of Americans are also asking "what's wrong with us?" – I believe Obama said pretty much that earlier this week or last week.
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- HipstaJules 2y agoWe have a war in Europe right now.
- wvh 2y agoIt's coming. Left vs right, rich vs poor, socialism vs capitalism, men vs women, LGBTQ* vs straight, immigrant vs native, religion vs religion (amongst those who still have faith, with the rest as collateral). As an apolitical person, I've been pretty down and worried about the near future for the last 15-20 years in this post-truth society. The more science and data we have, the more we throw away the rational and retreat into our own emotional blind spots and dark psychological hang-ups. Across the board. But this too shall pass.
- agumonkey 2y agoIt seems that the web/2010+ era is not good at creating coherent information / pedagogy. We have access to a lot more data, but most people end up regressing as followers of tiktok celebs. Internet created an anthropoligical wild west.
- manamorphic 2y agoIn all fairness, as an EU citizen, if I was American I'd vote Trump. The Harris campaign was very weak and built on identity politics that as we saw is a double edged sword. And why should USA care about Europe? I mean, yes, unfortunate for Ukraine, but it's not necessarily their problem, no matter how much people make it out to be. We in Europe need to grow some balls and not be dependent on who is the next US president.
- n4r9 2y ago> unfortunate for Ukraine, but it's not necessarily their problem It seems like it absolutely is the US's problem, albeit indirectly. If Russia gets the outcome it wants in Ukraine, they'll have access to rich mineral deposits, vast quantities of grain, and nuclear power, boosting their economy and their status as a rival world power to the US. It will signal to Putin that he can be aggressive towards other neighbouring countries with little pushback. The war has resulted in a growing alliance between Russia, Iran and North Korea which is altering global military power dynamics and not in the US's favour. Also, China is watching what's happening with eagle eyes to determine whether to invade Taiwan, which would definitely escalate the US's engagement.