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Yea, but the game's changed. The Republican Party has figured out how to rally millions behind charismatic candidates. I wouldn't be surprised if we were in for

Yea, but the game's changed. The Republican Party has figured out how to rally millions behind charismatic candidates. I wouldn't be surprised if we were in for a couple more years of Republican leadership.

Cthulhu_ 2y ago
Charismatic or populist? Same thing in effect, but the latter has a bit more weight / context to politics. Also if they're having their way, they will break the current system; Trump has said people would never need to vote again if he wins, and Project 2025 aims to give much more power to the president (autocracy): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
- Prbeek 2y ago
  Given what democrats stand for, you don't even have to be charismatic to push them into a corner. Any candidate who will shout anti trans anti illegal immigrantion talking points will always carry the day
theshrike79 2y ago
Trump literally said "you won't have to vote again". And if the Project 2025 plan works as they planned it, that's the truth. America will become a single party state and that won't change without a civil war. They will stack the courts and every appointable position with pro-Trump (not Republican) people who will make sure every election goes their way in the future.
- user90131313 2y ago
  Oh people already say civil war? lol.
  - theshrike79 2y ago
    Nah, nobody is saying it, and it's not happening because the party with all the gun-nuts and survivalists won. I personally can't see any other way out unless Team Donald messes up badly enough to make their own people shun them.
- meowster 2y ago
  People won't have to vote for him again because he can't be voted for again due to the two-term-limit. !RemindMe in four years
- gitaarik 2y ago
  If that's possible, first of all why/how, and second, why would the Democrats not do this?
EricDeb 2y ago
it remains to be seen whether they can find the next trump hes unique
- rpmisms 2y ago
  JD Vance is extremely likeable, and much less polarizing than Trump. The "weird" attack on him died the moment people heard him speak.
  - some-guy 2y ago
    I wouldn't call him "much less" polarizing than Trump, he still is more unfavored than favored: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/jd-vance/ https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/jd-v...
    - meowster 2y ago
      Is that just due to his association with Trump?
    - rpmisms 2y ago
      I would. Unfavored is single-axis. He is more moderate and more likeable, which does not show up on your graph.
vdvsvwvwvwvwv 2y ago
A charismatic candidate figured out how to hijack the Republican party more like. Who is the other charismatic candidate up their sleeve?
- StrauXX 2y ago
  Ron DeSantis comes to mind
  - seanw444 2y ago
    I wouldn't say charismatic, but he's solid. I think people mistake charismatic for blunt. Trump is more blunt than he is charismatic. That makes him appear like less of an NPC compared to other politicians, and people actually like that.

Cthulhu_ 2y ago

Charismatic or populist? Same thing in effect, but the latter has a bit more weight / context to politics. Also if they're having their way, they will break the current system; Trump has said people would never need to vote again if he wins, and Project 2025 aims to give much more power to the president (autocracy): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

Prbeek 2y ago
Given what democrats stand for, you don't even have to be charismatic to push them into a corner. Any candidate who will shout anti trans anti illegal immigrantion talking points will always carry the day

theshrike79 2y ago

Trump literally said "you won't have to vote again". And if the Project 2025 plan works as they planned it, that's the truth. America will become a single party state and that won't change without a civil war. They will stack the courts and every appointable position with pro-Trump (not Republican) people who will make sure every election goes their way in the future.

user90131313 2y ago
Oh people already say civil war? lol.
- theshrike79 2y ago
  Nah, nobody is saying it, and it's not happening because the party with all the gun-nuts and survivalists won. I personally can't see any other way out unless Team Donald messes up badly enough to make their own people shun them.
meowster 2y ago
People won't have to vote for him again because he can't be voted for again due to the two-term-limit. !RemindMe in four years
gitaarik 2y ago
If that's possible, first of all why/how, and second, why would the Democrats not do this?

EricDeb 2y ago

it remains to be seen whether they can find the next trump hes unique

rpmisms 2y ago
JD Vance is extremely likeable, and much less polarizing than Trump. The "weird" attack on him died the moment people heard him speak.
- some-guy 2y ago
  I wouldn't call him "much less" polarizing than Trump, he still is more unfavored than favored: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/jd-vance/ https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/jd-v...
  - meowster 2y ago
    Is that just due to his association with Trump?
  - rpmisms 2y ago
    I would. Unfavored is single-axis. He is more moderate and more likeable, which does not show up on your graph.

vdvsvwvwvwvwv 2y ago

A charismatic candidate figured out how to hijack the Republican party more like. Who is the other charismatic candidate up their sleeve?

StrauXX 2y ago
Ron DeSantis comes to mind
- seanw444 2y ago
  I wouldn't say charismatic, but he's solid. I think people mistake charismatic for blunt. Trump is more blunt than he is charismatic. That makes him appear like less of an NPC compared to other politicians, and people actually like that.