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To all the people wondering why Trump has been elected, the answer is very simple and has been true in all countries that have had elections. When a large secti
by phs318u 2y ago
To all the people wondering why Trump has been elected, the answer is very simple and has been true in all countries that have had elections. When a large section of the voting public is chronically missing out on the benefits of what they're told is a "growing economy", only to observe continued "unfair" extremes of wealth distribution, they become disenchanted with the system that has generated this situation. By definition almost, they become very willing prey for any demagogue that threatens to upend the system, turn over the money-changers tables. It's irrelevant whether the demagogue's policies will work or not. It's irrelevant whether the demagogue is provably lying or not. It's all about repressed anger being unleashed and finding a target. Even if the target is not the cause of their misery. And so every latent form of bigotry finds expression and is easily exploited by the demagogue.
It's worth re-reading Goebells primarily because his understanding of this psychology is what made Nazi demagoguery so devastatingly successful. Any attempt by a party to attack the demagogue without directly addressing the elephant in the room (the growing class of working poor) is not only destined to fail, but destined to fail badly. If I hate you - really hate you - I don't mind copping a few painful blows if it means I get to see you bludgeoned to near death. Vengeance is an incredibly powerful motivator. People trying to lump all of Trump's supporters as Nazi's are making a grave mistake and refusing to see the forest for the trees. Just as most Germans in WWII were not Nazis yet supported Hitler, so too with Trump. Latinos, blacks, gays and women all voted for Trump. Don't assume they're all stupid. When I hate you, I'm happy to burn in hell if you're there with me.
Of course, this is a simple generalisation and there are lots of "sub-reasons" (the bro-vote, the foot-gun Democrat advertising - "he doesn't have to know!", etc). If the Democrats had chosen Bernie Sanders as their candidate back in 2016, they would've had eight years in power. It's no coincidence that Bernie had a lot of support from those that otherwise voted Trump. They felt that he was real and was really concerned about them and would really do something to assuage their pain. Now? Now they're just mad - "enough is enough".
However, anger is not sustainable for too long and all demagogues eventually come undone because once the heat of anger is gone and you look around and realise things are worse than ever - well, that's when things can REALLY get dangerous.
- squigz 2y agoThank you for putting this into words. I have been struggling to articulate the 'why' myself.
- jajko 2y agoHmm, as someone from Europe I've never heard labeling of trump's supporters as nazis, that's quite a strong claim I haven't seen much evidence of. Not that you are not correct in many aspects, but wasn't inequality sort of part of whole US setup and 'american dream'? Back to good ol' days when poor were poor and a largely invisible part of society. For an european eye US is setup on inequality by principle, which does a lot of good and bad. When looking at resilience and strength of economy that Europe can never ever dream of reaching, I'd say bigger good trumps (eh) those evils but I have only very limited view. In Europe even big success is mild compared to how far in US things can grow into. Complex topic this is.
- dandellion 2y agoI'm from Europe too. There was a republican rally at the Madison Square Garden a few weeks back, and there were a lot of comparisons with the nazis, with people in social media calling them nazis and so on. This article [1] for example mentions "Several prominent Democrats have drawn comparisons between Trump's Madison Square Garden rally this weekend to a 1939 Nazi event held there.". I don't know if the comparisons were justified or not, because I haven't even read the article, just wanted to add it as reference since I remembered that happening and comments calling republicans nazis on places like reddit. 1: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-allies-insist-s-not-nazi-rcna177774 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-allies-...
- e40 2y agoIt has literally been a thing for years now. Since he lost the 2020 election he has ramped up his rhetoric and surrounded himself with people that are causing the comparison to be made.
- metabagel 2y agoHe does have support from actual literal Nazis. I don't think there a huge number of them, but he has their vote.