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@mbg721, you seem to be willfully ignorant of anything this man has said and the dangers everyone is talking about. You seem to be completely missing any ideas

by mlnj 2y ago

@mbg721, you seem to be willfully ignorant of anything this man has said and the dangers everyone is talking about. You seem to be completely missing any ideas on his policy and the changes he wants to being to the government and the democratic process. Please stop commenting "Where?", "What?", "How?" to everyone in the comments here. They do not add any value to the conversation.

mbg721 2y ago
I don't see any clear articulation of the dangers, other than that he's a convicted criminal, which I argue is for purely political reasons. Republican candidates have been labeled "HITLER 2" since Goldwater. I'm not cheerleading, but rather am trying to make policy arguments that add as much value as possible.
- 50208 2y ago
  Oh no, not cheerleading ... just wanting to talk "policy", for purely political reasons. No doubt.
  - mbg721 2y ago
    Can you explain why his conviction is relevant? As it stands, the facts are that it was for hush-money paid to Stormy Daniels, but it's clearly viewed as political by voters. I would agree that it was a grave matter if his felony were an unrelated murder or something, but that's not the situation, and again, voters are not stupid.
    - mlnj 2y ago
      I believe you'd make the same excuses in his defense even if the conviction was for 'murder or something'. Everything from quoting Mein Kampf to praising Hitler's generals to using Nazi rhetoric has been done in the last few months. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-says-immigrants-are-poisoning-blood-country-biden-campaign-liken-rcna130141 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-says-im... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/27/trump-madison-square-garden-rally https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/27/trump-madiso... But I've come to believe that folks like you will continue to make excuses no matter how low he stoops. "and again, voters are not stupid." Isn't it?

by mlnj 2y ago

mbg721 2y ago

I don't see any clear articulation of the dangers, other than that he's a convicted criminal, which I argue is for purely political reasons. Republican candidates have been labeled "HITLER 2" since Goldwater. I'm not cheerleading, but rather am trying to make policy arguments that add as much value as possible.

50208 2y ago
Oh no, not cheerleading ... just wanting to talk "policy", for purely political reasons. No doubt.
- mbg721 2y ago
  Can you explain why his conviction is relevant? As it stands, the facts are that it was for hush-money paid to Stormy Daniels, but it's clearly viewed as political by voters. I would agree that it was a grave matter if his felony were an unrelated murder or something, but that's not the situation, and again, voters are not stupid.
  - mlnj 2y ago
    I believe you'd make the same excuses in his defense even if the conviction was for 'murder or something'. Everything from quoting Mein Kampf to praising Hitler's generals to using Nazi rhetoric has been done in the last few months. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-says-immigrants-are-poisoning-blood-country-biden-campaign-liken-rcna130141 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-says-im... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/27/trump-madison-square-garden-rally https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/27/trump-madiso... But I've come to believe that folks like you will continue to make excuses no matter how low he stoops. "and again, voters are not stupid." Isn't it?