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Rephrased: we, the average tax payers, want prosperity too.

hcfman 2y ago
Well, so long as prosperity doesn't mean cheaper TVs with Chinese parts in them. I guess they will have to buy American TVs from now on.
- dgfitz 2y ago
  I’ve seen more than a few comments and tips on HN about how to keep one’s TV from phoning China.
fabioborellini 2y ago
But you aren't getting any with this ticket. There is no political force in the US that would question the trickle-down fairytales, and your broken elections system won't allow one to emerge. So you vote for change, yet the economics policies stay as unequal as always. But in the process you supported a rapist and a criminal who calls execution of journalists, suppression of women, blatant racism and just death and destruction of non-privileged people everywhere.
- DiscourseFan 2y ago
  if the genuinely unprivileged gain some consciousness of their condition because of Trump, there will be changed. You cannot claim it for them.
  - twixfel 2y ago
    So, accelerationism?
    - DiscourseFan 2y ago
      accelerationism would be launching yourself into the unknown and not committing to a particular political ideology except the continuous development of capitalism. This is simply working with the concrete situation: a Trump presidency, which clearly opens up more opportunities for radical action then a Harris presidency, since Trump will be too busy completely destroying the economy and the FBI, CIA, and NSA, the judiciary and the legal system more broadly, to be even capable of fighting back against resistance or even stopping the conditions for a popular foment. Or, maybe I'm wrong, who knows. But at least now we'll get to know.
rob74 2y ago
That's what's the most mind-boggling for me - since when are the Republicans the ones considered most likely to bring prosperity to the masses?
- galfarragem 2y ago
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  - Symbiote 2y ago
    Can you give an example of such a policy? (Not to doubt it, I just don't know as I'm on the other side of the world.)
    - galfarragem 2y ago
      Illegal immigration disregard, feeding stupid wars, ignoring petty crime.
      - LunaSea 2y ago
        Republicans started the war in Iraq and Afghanistan so that's not true. And Republicans are against increasing the federal minimum wage so that's also not true. Disinformation is what won this campaign.
        mango7283 2y ago
        Notably those wars were not started or escalated by Trump's republican party. While >Dick Cheney< got accepted by Dems now just because he is against Trump...
        LunaSea 2y ago
        I see that we're already moving goalposts. Trump has a responsibility in escalating the tension between Israel and Palestine following the move of the American embassy to Jerusalem. He also escalated bombings in Syria. His terrible Afghan deal also made it so that there was no time or guarantees to fly Americans and people that helped America to the US while also leaving a lot of American military gear to the Talibans. This also ridiculed the US on the international stage.

Well, so long as prosperity doesn't mean cheaper TVs with Chinese parts in them. I guess they will have to buy American TVs from now on.

dgfitz 2y ago
I’ve seen more than a few comments and tips on HN about how to keep one’s TV from phoning China.

fabioborellini 2y ago

But you aren't getting any with this ticket. There is no political force in the US that would question the trickle-down fairytales, and your broken elections system won't allow one to emerge. So you vote for change, yet the economics policies stay as unequal as always. But in the process you supported a rapist and a criminal who calls execution of journalists, suppression of women, blatant racism and just death and destruction of non-privileged people everywhere.

DiscourseFan 2y ago
if the genuinely unprivileged gain some consciousness of their condition because of Trump, there will be changed. You cannot claim it for them.
- twixfel 2y ago
  So, accelerationism?
  - DiscourseFan 2y ago
    accelerationism would be launching yourself into the unknown and not committing to a particular political ideology except the continuous development of capitalism. This is simply working with the concrete situation: a Trump presidency, which clearly opens up more opportunities for radical action then a Harris presidency, since Trump will be too busy completely destroying the economy and the FBI, CIA, and NSA, the judiciary and the legal system more broadly, to be even capable of fighting back against resistance or even stopping the conditions for a popular foment. Or, maybe I'm wrong, who knows. But at least now we'll get to know.

rob74 2y ago

That's what's the most mind-boggling for me - since when are the Republicans the ones considered most likely to bring prosperity to the masses?

galfarragem 2y ago
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- Symbiote 2y ago
  Can you give an example of such a policy? (Not to doubt it, I just don't know as I'm on the other side of the world.)
  - galfarragem 2y ago
    Illegal immigration disregard, feeding stupid wars, ignoring petty crime.
    - LunaSea 2y ago
      Republicans started the war in Iraq and Afghanistan so that's not true. And Republicans are against increasing the federal minimum wage so that's also not true. Disinformation is what won this campaign.
      - mango7283 2y ago
        Notably those wars were not started or escalated by Trump's republican party. While >Dick Cheney< got accepted by Dems now just because he is against Trump...
        LunaSea 2y ago
        I see that we're already moving goalposts. Trump has a responsibility in escalating the tension between Israel and Palestine following the move of the American embassy to Jerusalem. He also escalated bombings in Syria. His terrible Afghan deal also made it so that there was no time or guarantees to fly Americans and people that helped America to the US while also leaving a lot of American military gear to the Talibans. This also ridiculed the US on the international stage.