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Inflation. Record illegal immigration. Identity politics. Inflation. An anointed candidate. Perceived censorship. Inflation. Income inequality. Cover ups. Infla

by fny 2y ago

Inflation. Record illegal immigration. Identity politics. Inflation. An anointed candidate. Perceived censorship. Inflation. Income inequality. Cover ups. Inflation. I’m not saying Trump will fix any of this. I’m just saying people feel like PC culture has gone over the top while a 20oz Coke has tripled in price. Harris campaigned on “we’re not going back” but a lot of people would trade Trump’s insanity for housing prices of yore.

ddorian43 2y ago
Wasn't the inflation done by Trump though? Not allowing Powell to raise rates and threatening to remove him?
- fny 2y ago
  I completely agree that Trump printed a ton of money, but Biden also continued to print a ton of money. In addition, people tend to associate outcomes with the administration in power even if it’s due to a prior administration. Inflation appeared under Biden, not Trump. Inflation decreasing also does not mean prices decreasing.
- tomrod 2y ago
  Yes. We Americans have the collective memory of a Mayfly and the inability to pay attention to things that drive actual inflation that take a lot of time to resolve, like bad housing policy, logistics logjams, and starving the beastly budget needed for oversight.
- jpamata 2y ago
  Could be, or the Ukraine war, the pandemic, or some other policy It's nonfalsifiable. People will settle on the simplest observation: it happened under Biden
- EricDeb 2y ago
  of course. And this was a failure of messaging by dems
pavlov 2y ago
Inflation was global, and the USA navigated it much better than other Western economies. But of course that’s far too much nuance for the average voter anywhere.
- ruthmarx 2y ago
  It is astounding how many people don't get that. Also how many people blame it on Biden while giving Trump credit for Obama's work.
- astrange 2y ago
  Funny thing is we saved ourselves from 2008-style economic collapse with stimulus, which partially caused the inflation here but also caused it in all the other countries. But nevertheless, all their incumbent parties lost over it.
- sethammons 2y ago
  When you get punched in the face, the first thought is not who else got punched. Of course ppl will vote based on their own recent face punching. "I didn't get punched in the face when the other guy was president"
  - pavlov 2y ago
    Which is a bit of a weird argument because people did get punched hard in 2020. Things were mostly very bad during Trump’s last year in office. Jobs were lost, millions died; Trump himself spent days in intensive care in October 2020. Political memories are very short. Trump can get excused for the botched Covid response because it’s ancient history, but Biden can’t get excused for global inflation which followed from the same disaster.
  - crabmusket 2y ago
    So what you're saying is that voters are stupid? Punch-drunk unable to think about the consequences of their actions?
    - 2y ago
redeux 2y ago
Not only will Trump not fix these things but he’s the cause or at least contributor to all the things you just mentioned. You may be right that those are the reasons people voted for Trump, but if they did they’re naive at best.
EricDeb 2y ago
Spot on. You nailed it. And dems needed to communicate why those things were not their fault or have answers... instead they tried "vibes"
thenaturalist 2y ago
> Inflation. The lack of basic macroeconomic education is truly becoming an ever more problem in free societies. Living in capitalism while not really understanding basic tennents makes one ripe for manipulation and that way endangers freedoms we all cherish.

by fny 2y ago

ddorian43 2y ago

Wasn't the inflation done by Trump though? Not allowing Powell to raise rates and threatening to remove him?

fny 2y ago
I completely agree that Trump printed a ton of money, but Biden also continued to print a ton of money. In addition, people tend to associate outcomes with the administration in power even if it’s due to a prior administration. Inflation appeared under Biden, not Trump. Inflation decreasing also does not mean prices decreasing.
tomrod 2y ago
Yes. We Americans have the collective memory of a Mayfly and the inability to pay attention to things that drive actual inflation that take a lot of time to resolve, like bad housing policy, logistics logjams, and starving the beastly budget needed for oversight.
jpamata 2y ago
Could be, or the Ukraine war, the pandemic, or some other policy It's nonfalsifiable. People will settle on the simplest observation: it happened under Biden
EricDeb 2y ago
of course. And this was a failure of messaging by dems

pavlov 2y ago

Inflation was global, and the USA navigated it much better than other Western economies. But of course that’s far too much nuance for the average voter anywhere.

ruthmarx 2y ago
It is astounding how many people don't get that. Also how many people blame it on Biden while giving Trump credit for Obama's work.
astrange 2y ago
Funny thing is we saved ourselves from 2008-style economic collapse with stimulus, which partially caused the inflation here but also caused it in all the other countries. But nevertheless, all their incumbent parties lost over it.
sethammons 2y ago
When you get punched in the face, the first thought is not who else got punched. Of course ppl will vote based on their own recent face punching. "I didn't get punched in the face when the other guy was president"
- pavlov 2y ago
  Which is a bit of a weird argument because people did get punched hard in 2020. Things were mostly very bad during Trump’s last year in office. Jobs were lost, millions died; Trump himself spent days in intensive care in October 2020. Political memories are very short. Trump can get excused for the botched Covid response because it’s ancient history, but Biden can’t get excused for global inflation which followed from the same disaster.
- crabmusket 2y ago
  So what you're saying is that voters are stupid? Punch-drunk unable to think about the consequences of their actions?
  - 2y ago

redeux 2y ago

Not only will Trump not fix these things but he’s the cause or at least contributor to all the things you just mentioned. You may be right that those are the reasons people voted for Trump, but if they did they’re naive at best.

EricDeb 2y ago

Spot on. You nailed it. And dems needed to communicate why those things were not their fault or have answers... instead they tried "vibes"

thenaturalist 2y ago

> Inflation. The lack of basic macroeconomic education is truly becoming an ever more problem in free societies. Living in capitalism while not really understanding basic tennents makes one ripe for manipulation and that way endangers freedoms we all cherish.