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We don't need self driving cars for the transport revolution but self driving busses, trains and maybe trucks.

ArtTimeInvestor 2y ago
User experience always wins. The best user experience is: You tap a button on your phone Immediately a car arrives You enter it It drives you directly to your destination You exit
- MrHamburger 2y ago
  Unless car arrives in 3 hours because it is morning peak and everyone wants to get to job.
- SilverBirch 2y ago
  That won't be the user experience. There is a limited amount of space on the road and functionally unlimited demand. Demand will level off at a point where either "Immediately a car arrives" turns to "After a barely tolerable wait your car arrives" and "It drives you directly to your destination" turns to "It sits in traffic for a barely tolerable amount of time". Either that limits demand or price limits demand in which case the vast majority of people will be priced out in order to keep roads empty enough for your best user experience.
  - ArtTimeInvestor 2y ago
    Let's think it through. If both are available to you, then no matter how crowded the roads will be, a car that drives you directly from A to B will be the better UX than a bus that drives you from somewhere near A to somewhere near B via C, D, E and F. So the car could only be the worse experience if it is hard to get one (Because all the cars near you are occupied by other people) while a bus is easy to get into (Because there is one near you and you still fit in). The vast majority of worldwide rides will continue to be done in individual cars. The extremely crowded situation that would make a bus the better experience is extremely rare. Most rides worldwide are definitely not done in that kind of environment. And the removal of parking spaces and the better routing self-driving cars allow will move even those environments more towards the individual car.
    - SilverBirch 2y ago
      Or, as is the case in most cities around the world busses, trains and cycle routes are faster modes of transport because they have dedicated routes that aren't subject to congestion in the same way roads are. Walking 5 minutes to the bus stop beats getting stuck in 45 minutes of congestion in the car.

User experience always wins. The best user experience is: You tap a button on your phone Immediately a car arrives You enter it It drives you directly to your destination You exit

MrHamburger 2y ago
Unless car arrives in 3 hours because it is morning peak and everyone wants to get to job.
SilverBirch 2y ago
That won't be the user experience. There is a limited amount of space on the road and functionally unlimited demand. Demand will level off at a point where either "Immediately a car arrives" turns to "After a barely tolerable wait your car arrives" and "It drives you directly to your destination" turns to "It sits in traffic for a barely tolerable amount of time". Either that limits demand or price limits demand in which case the vast majority of people will be priced out in order to keep roads empty enough for your best user experience.
- ArtTimeInvestor 2y ago
  Let's think it through. If both are available to you, then no matter how crowded the roads will be, a car that drives you directly from A to B will be the better UX than a bus that drives you from somewhere near A to somewhere near B via C, D, E and F. So the car could only be the worse experience if it is hard to get one (Because all the cars near you are occupied by other people) while a bus is easy to get into (Because there is one near you and you still fit in). The vast majority of worldwide rides will continue to be done in individual cars. The extremely crowded situation that would make a bus the better experience is extremely rare. Most rides worldwide are definitely not done in that kind of environment. And the removal of parking spaces and the better routing self-driving cars allow will move even those environments more towards the individual car.
  - SilverBirch 2y ago
    Or, as is the case in most cities around the world busses, trains and cycle routes are faster modes of transport because they have dedicated routes that aren't subject to congestion in the same way roads are. Walking 5 minutes to the bus stop beats getting stuck in 45 minutes of congestion in the car.