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Title drops in movies
- alehlopeh 2y agoThe movie It doesn’t have as many title drops as I would’ve expected. Also I don’t recall anyone ever saying The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring in that film.
- stavros 2y agoYou should, perhaps, read the article.
- agolio 2y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that".
- PittleyDunkin 2y agoHow would the commenter know to bring it up without reading the article? This feels like dodging the question of "why is the determination of a title drop so bad?"
- throwaway314155 2y agoThere's a section in the article regarding how to handle colons.
- PittleyDunkin 2y agoYet again, this feels like dodging the question of "why is the determination of a title drop so bad?" C'mon it was half the content of my comment and you still refused to acknowledge it. What do you want
- lmm 2y agoWhy should colons be such special case? Why not treat commata or dashes the same way? (And conversely, did they count the one in the Aqua Teen Hunger Force movie title?)
- alehlopeh 2y agoI obviously read at least some of the article.
- _puk 2y agoI think the GP's point (badly made) may be that the Lord of the rings example is addressed explicitly in the article. "titles containing a colon are split and either side counts as a title drop. So for The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring either "Lord of the Rings" or "Fellowship of the Ring" would count as title drops"
- tcho 2y agoElrond Peredhel, Lord of Rivendell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8cU48PD0LI&t=7s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8cU48PD0LI&t=7s
- vundercind 2y agoIncluding films where the title is a character name makes the data set less interesting. “Barbie title-drops a ton!” yeah ok.
- ramon156 2y agoWhat a pessimistic view.
- tedunangst 2y agoI'm imagining some film school student explaining how Barbie would have been a better movie, a real film even, without mentioning the character's name.
- PittleyDunkin 2y agoThey could have just named the character and avoided this too
- wmf 2y agoIn The Ghost Writer the main character's name is never mentioned.
- jachee 2y agoFight Club, either.
- zwp 2y agoAnd Layer Cake
- aidenn0 2y agoIt's implied that his name is "Jack," assuming the poetry written from the point of view of Jack's organs were an earlier coping mechanism for the MC.
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- shrikant 2y agoWhat a fun read! I should point out though that the movie Saina definitely needs a "name" icon next to it, as it's a biopic of badminton player Saina Nehwal.
- KTibow 2y agoI would've liked 2d charts or at least stacked bar charts for the correlation ones to see if the correlations are different for ones with only one drop or many drops
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- devonsolomon 2y agoJust dropping in to say thank you! Fun read, fun idea, well executed. Smells like the old internet! Runpee.com for when best to pee during a long film, Mr Skin for nude scenes (Flesh of The Stars in Knocked up fiction) … and titledrops.net for title drops.
- FoeNyx 2y agoYour list made me remember doesthedogdie.com which lists diverse trigger warnings in movies and other media.
- devonsolomon 2y agoAh yes ! Should have included.
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- chrisallick 2y agohttps://youtu.be/OiqPmsBYieA?feature=shared https://youtu.be/OiqPmsBYieA?feature=shared i had the titular line in star wars...
- mhh__ 2y agoPatrick, you're the American psycho! I really like a credit drop a la Gaspar Noe just rolling the credits mid way through Climax. I like the idea of a surrealist scene in a restaurant where the credits are just tucked away in a menu. Maybe it's been done
- benoliver999 2y ago"The only way for me to solve this crisis is to be Superman 4 - The Quest for Peace"
- evil-olive 2y agoone of my favorites is Robocop 2 (1990): > 00:23:19 it gives me great pleasure to introduce to you, Robocop 2
- Rebelgecko 2y agoDeathstalker 2 is probably my favorite instance of a sequel number being incorporated into the title drop. Not only is it one of the first lines of the movie, the timing is impeccable. https://youtu.be/BkPxZLWeTBg https://youtu.be/BkPxZLWeTBg
- xsmasher 2y agoRobocop 2 is a critique of sequels - everything must be bigger and better, designed by committee, with every idea (directive) shoved into the box until it becomes unworkable.
- bananaflag 2y ago> So for The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring either "Lord of the Rings" or "Fellowship of the Ring" would count as title drops (feel free to hover over the visualizations to explore the matches)! An unacknowledged partial title drop for that movie is that "Lord of the Ring" (with no s at the end) is uttered.
- thaumasiotes 2y agoThat isn't the same thing. The Lord of the Rings is the One Ring. The Lord of the Ring is Sauron.
- jimjimjim 2y agouh, no. I'm pretty sure Sauron is the Lord of the Rings including the one ring. Since he, you know, kind of made them all.
- the_af 2y agoWhile you're right about Sauron being the Lord of the Rings, he didn't make all of them. The three Elven rings were made in secret by Elves, and were untainted by Sauron. Disregard the TV show, which shows a version contradicting Tolkien. This is the reason at the end of the Return of the King, with Sauron defeated, Gandalf, Galadriel and (Cirdan?) are able to openly wear the three again. Had they been tools of the Enemy, they would never have been worn again.
- throwawaycities 2y agoIn The Rings of Power Sauron is called Lord of the Rings (plural)
- account42 2y agoI'm not sure why you think fanfiction is relevant to this discussion.
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- rurban 2y agoI favor those dramatic Gaspar Noe title drops, the title in huge red letters full screen, over characters naming the title. It's huge. But then opensubtitles couldn't be used to analyse that.
- test1235 2y agosometimes the title is in the script, but isn't actually a line said by anyone: Aliens (1986) (Aliens hissing) https://www.titledrops.net/explorer?movies=tt0090605&title= https://www.titledrops.net/explorer?movies=tt0090605&title=
- contravariant 2y agoThey even included one in the article. At least I sincerely doubt that "The Scarlet Bond That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime" [sic] was dialogue. Given the context I'm fairly sure it's just the title showing up on screen, but subtitled because it's in Japanese.
- nighthawk454 2y ago“That’s the name of the movie!” - most Pitch Meeting videos
- latexr 2y agoFor reference: https://www.youtube.com/@PitchMeetings https://www.youtube.com/@PitchMeetings
- gowld 2y agoand "Roll Credits" in CinemaSins One thing they deem to be a movie “sin” is the fact that movies will often have a line of dialogue in which they'll say the title of the movie. Whenever a movie does this, the CinemaSins Narrator will exclaim “Roll Credits,” as though the title of the film can only be mentioned in the absolute last line of dialogue. https://popculturalstudies.wordpress.com/2018/01/18/in-defense-of-roll-credits-moments/ https://popculturalstudies.wordpress.com/2018/01/18/in-defen... highlights some examples.
- bombcar 2y agoNow I wonder how many title drops are the last line or near enough as such ...
- locusofself 2y agoOne of my favorite title drops is in Arrested Development: Michael Bluth: "Your average American male is in a perpetual state of adolescence, you know, arrested development" Narrator: "Hey! Thats the name of the show"
- extraduder_ire 2y agoThe narrator, Ron Howard, also appears in an episode while still doing the narration and referring to himself.
- xsmasher 2y agoThe show is more meta than Deadpool. > Chachi: "Look, this is not the first time I’ve been brought in to replace Barry Zuckerman. I think I can do for you everything he did, plus skew younger…" > Narrator: "No one was making fun of Andy Griffith. I can't emphasize that enough."
- redundantly 2y ago"What, we some kinda... Suicide Squad?" (◔_◔)
- alexnew 2y agoLove data x film. https://stephenfollows.substack.com/ https://stephenfollows.substack.com/ does a lot of this kind of work.
- undebuggable 2y agoIt's actually well executed how they managed to say exactly once "Amadeus" or "Patton" in their biographical films.
- savef 2y agoI was utterly disturbed by a story sent into the Kermode and Mayo radio show many years ago. The listener explained that their family went to the theatre, sat down in their seats to watch the film, and then upon the first utterance of the title of the film they would clap, stand up, and walk out. I assume this to be a joke. I've never found any reference of anybody doing this online, or anybody even discussing this one story from the show. But holy shit does it make my skin crawl.
- yard2010 2y agoTangibly related, mandatory family guy reference: https://youtu.be/lospTnfovr8 https://youtu.be/lospTnfovr8
- sidcool 2y agoHappy to see Damini movie in that list. It's an excellent Bollywood movie from the 90s. I know the list is not indicative of the quality of the movie. But still happy to see this obscure Indian movie. Worth a watch. Highly rated on IMDB too.
- darekkay 2y agoMaybe I was (un)lucky, but the only film I've checked was "Inception". It's spoken at 19:24, but the explorer states the title is not dropped at all. I had to actually look it up, as I've doubted my memory for a second.
- ggm 2y agoWas 'je ne regrette rien' playing when you had that doubt?
- mk_stjames 2y agoWild, that was the first title I tried as well. It is such a specific word, hence why I tried it first. It's actually said eight times in the movie (I ctrl+f'd an .srt file). The page mentions the methodology was to use opensubtitles.com, but not how which specific version was to be used from that website was chosen (because opensusbtitles.com lists tons of possible files for each language depending on what version of torrent/etc they match). It is possible that the download script used accidentally chose non-English .srt files sometimes for some films.
- GolDDranks 2y agoWhile the 1995 Japanese anime series, Neon Genesis Evangelion revolves around human-shaped weapons called "Evangelions", the "Neon Genesis" part of the title is neither part of the original Japanese name, nor its direct translation. The Japanese name is 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン / Shin-seiki evangerion, "Evangelion of a new era/century". The series has other non-direct translations too, and apparently this style was approved of the original creators, but it was always a bit of a mystery whether the gap in the interpretation was intentional or not. However, over two decades later, with the re-boot movie series Rebuild of Evangelion, in the final scenes of the final movie, the protagonist name-drops the words "neon genesis" in appropriate context. I've never grinned as hard in movie theater.
- twic 2y agoWhat does the dialogue say in Japanese? Neon genesis or new era?
- GolDDranks 2y agoネオンジェネシス, neon jeneshisu
- miltonlost 2y agoNeon is relating to "new" via neo- prefix, with -n added on because the Western idea in the 90s of Japanese aesthetic was futuristic neon. Genesis is for as beginning to the new era. It's etymology is Greek for "origin, creation, generation" which is a sort of an "era". Plus a looser translation provides the extra wordplay and thematic heft with the Angels due to Genesis being first book of the Bible. Not a translator but I write a lot of poetry, and that's what would be going through my mind as I see the difference between the literal translation and the English decision and the additional capabilities this translation gives. In my mind, the initial translator 100% intended this "gap", which is less a gap and more of an additional layering.
- nine_k 2y agoBTW neon the gas was called so because it was a new discovery (in a well-searched area, the composition of air). The name basically means "a new something", neuter gender, could be "lo nuevo" in Spanish or "das neue" in German. Since "evangelion" and "genesis" clearly are taken from Greek, so was apparently "neon".
- gnrlst 2y agoI remember about 12-15 years ago, as a weekend project, I reached out to the creator of OpenSubtitles dot org and asked him for a dump of all the subtitles, which he promptly and happily provided. I then indexed them all in elasticsearch (it was a pretty nascent tech at the time), and created a movie quote finder, with timestamps. E.g. you could search for "i love you" and it would tell you all the movies and timestamps that phrase would be uttered. My lazy ass didn't go beyond a localhost version, but I still remember fondly of having gotten that working, it felt like magic at the time.
- mkl 2y agoA bug: In "Highest title drops by decade", 1960, "Best rated (at least 1 drop)", it lists Psycho with 0 drops. It really does seem to be 0, so shouldn't show up here.
- mook 2y agoA different bug in the article: It lists That Time I Got Reincarnated… (awfully long title) as having one, but I'm pretty sure that's just a translation of the title card: 73 00:13:32,095 --> 00:13:34,055 No... Look! 74 00:13:47,068 --> 00:13:47,600 That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime 75 00:13:47,610 --> 00:13:49,987 <b>The Scarlet Bond</b> <b>That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime</b> 76 00:14:04,627 --> 00:14:05,992 Find him?!
- bux93 2y agoSome movies have a working title and the release is different. We may never know how many title drops are in those. Although we know that the working title for "The Dark Knight" was "Rory's First Kiss".
- SideburnsOfDoom 2y agoThe working title of the project is often public, e.g. on signs to the location shoot, and as such is often cryptic so that that the casual observer won't know that e.g. "Rory's First Kiss" is a Batman movie.
- -t0mm 2y agoBrokeback Mountain apparently has 0 title drops, even though all Ennis and Jack have is Brokeback Mountain!
- epolanski 2y agoMost ridiculous one has to be "I have my 50 shades of grey" or something like that dropped in the same movie. I only know this because of the fun honest reviews made of it.
- Cthulhu_ 2y ago"I'm 50 shades of fucked up" if I recall correctly, which was as much forced as it was cringe. I never watched the film or read the books thankfully.
- epolanski 2y agoYou're right, I rewatched the video! It's even worse than I remembered.
- olddustytrail 2y agoNo, you're both wrong, nothing was "forced". That dialogue is from the book. The book gets its title from the dialogue. The film has the same title and dialogue because it's based on the book. There is no point where script writers are sat down trying to figure out how to work the title into the dialogue.
- jcotton42 2y agoIt's still forced, just in the source material instead of the adaptation.
- r0bbbo 2y agoThere was an Instagram account or YouTube channel that used to make funny videos of the films ending with the credits rolling at the exact point the title of the film was said—anyone have any recollection of that?
- r0bbbo 2y agoFound it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DMndH8QiI4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DMndH8QiI4 The closing music choices are excellent.
- cezart 2y agoThe Elephant (2003) has my favorite Title drop, and of course, is not marked in this database. As I remember it, at some point in the movie we are shown a drawing of an elephant randomly hanging in the room of one of the protagonists. Both the drawing, and the main protagonists are easy to ignore, yet are the main subjects of the movie.
- G_o_D 2y agoIndian Movies had this trend since early days till lates 90s Every movie has 1 dialogue 1 song That says title of movie
- jonplackett 2y agoI just came here to say I love the bulgy animation as you scrub through the movie to see the drops. This is a fun idea but I also appreciate the extra effort to make it nice to explore!
- arethuza 2y agoIsn't "Dune" said once in both of the Villeneuve movies?
- Yasuraka 2y agoI remember it in the second one at least: https://youtu.be/r99hB4FzhXw?&t=153 https://youtu.be/r99hB4FzhXw?&t=153
- Avlin67 2y agowhat is title drops ? what doest it mean ?
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- adriand 2y agoHow sure are we that these so-called title drops are what this article purports them to be rather than the name of the film coming from the content and/or dialogue that is contained within it? An analogy: when someone writes a song and then they need to name it, they will frequently choose a word or phrase that appears in the lyrics. When Leonard Cohen sings “hallelujah” in the song of the same name, is that a “title drop”? I assume not.
- latexr 2y ago> How sure are we that these so-called title drops are what this article purports them to be What does the article purport them to be? Right at the top I see: > A title drop is when a character in a movie says the title of the movie they're in. That makes no distinction if the title or the script came first. The article does call out movies who do that in a cringe or obvious way (like Suicide Squad, which had prior art) but also includes movies where that is unavoidable, such as Barbie. More importantly, it doesn’t matter which came first. As soon as you make a line and a title the same, the line becomes a title drop. The audience sees the final product, not the process. > An analogy That analogy doesn’t work. Songs are typically repetitive and a few minutes long. Everyone expects them to name the title. A movie, on the other hand, is an experience that asks suspension of disbelief from you, it tries to engross you in its world over the course of multiple hours. When a character title drops, in a second you’re suddenly and forcefully pulled back from the illusion and reminded you’re watching a movie.
- nkozyra 2y ago> What does the article purport them to be? Right at the top I see: It seems to imply a concerted effort to mention the title of the movie in the script in a meta, fourth wall breaking sort of way. In some cases that's obviously true - Hot Tub Time Machine, Suicide Squad from their examples - but other times an untitled script just needs a title and it's plucked from the script. I think there's a distinction there, because the latter is less of an Easter Egg sort of thing and more "ok now we need a title."
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- latexr 2y agoReminded me of a scene in Barry¹ where the title character gets a small part in a movie and while his washed-up teacher is reviewing the script he sees Barry’s single line of dialogue and exclaims “That’s the name of the movie! They can’t cut that!” ¹ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_(TV_series) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_(TV_series)
- mobeigi 2y agoWow I love the presentation of this website, very nice!
- Sebb767 2y ago> Similarly, movies named after a protagonist have a title drop rate of 88.5% while only 34.2% of other movies drop their titles. What is much more interesting is that 11.5% of movies named after their protagonist never mention them by name. I guess I can imagine a few edge cases where this would be usual (protagonists not usually called by their name due to their position, like kings, and movies with little talking), but it's surprising that there are that many.
- edgineer 2y agoUnfortunately he'll miss e.g. "I'm sick and tired of these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane."
- NiloCK 2y agoA pointed reversal of this is "We Need to Talk About Kevin", which went unsaid through the movie.
- miltonlost 2y agoWhich is why it's such a great title. All that irony
- darepublic 2y agoIntentionality matters. "It" should not count as a title drop. Nor Barbie (or any movie where the title is the characters name). But I understand it would be way more difficult to run the numbers with such a constraint. But this is a case where, to me, the results are very much tainted and thus I had to stop reading. To me this is like when developers run into a hard issue and somehow play a game of semantics with the wording of a ticket to avoid putting together something useful for the user
- TheGeminon 2y agoIf you read a bit further he excludes instances like that and listed films with only a single (likely intentional) title drop.
- GuB-42 2y agoWhile it is somewhat arbitrary, I am sure that "Barbie" is intentional, the somewhat obnoxious repetition of the word "Barbie" fits the theme. Also, maybe you stopped reading a little too early as the case where the title is a character name is specially addressed. "It" may be the the special case here, as it is a very common word by itself but that a movie is named like this is notable enough for it to be included.
- quirino 2y agoI was more surprised by the fact that "Barbie" was said more times than "it", even though all of the "wrong" instances of "it" were counted as well.
- dkdbejwi383 2y agoIt's possible there are just more lines of dialogue in Barbie than It, given the conventions around each genre. I haven't seen It, but I can assume with It being a horror film there are longer periods with no dialogue for suspense etc.
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- badmintonbaseba 2y agoFake title drops is one of my favorite memes, which is a screenshot from a movie/series with fake subtitles. Example: https://preview.redd.it/in-the-netflix-original-series-resident-evil-the-main-v0-qrls3cl00nd91.jpg?auto=webp&s=271f6e856781dd73382eb042053b9fe3a7c9debe https://preview.redd.it/in-the-netflix-original-series-resid... edit: oops, just noticed the article also mentions the meme
- yieldcrv 2y agoSometimes the title is added after the script
- jdlyga 2y ago"I'm just so tired of all these star wars"
- MPSimmons 2y agoOh my god this seems like so much work. I'm exhausted on their behalf.
- julianeon 2y agoThe one in Hot Tub Time Machine will never stop being funny to me.
- jml7c5 2y agoThere's a parody account on Twitter that I dearly love for these. In particular: https://x.com/Saythetitle/status/909933269982105605 https://x.com/Saythetitle/status/909933269982105605 (It's a shame there's no nice way on Twitter to sort by number of favorites. You can approximate it by searching for "from:<accountname> min_faves:<number>", but it doesn't correct for the number of followers the person had at a given point. Which is a problem with subreddit "top" sorting, come to think of it, as it strongly weights recent posts when the subreddit was more popular. Always wished they'd fix that.)
- racl101 2y agoFor as cheesy as the Fast and Furious movies are they still haven't really done this with the exception of Tokyo Drift I think.
- frmersdog 2y agoThe hardest name drop of the last decade has got to be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln6ZxXSnMwg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln6ZxXSnMwg (Massive spoilers for Last Fiction 16). Yes, it's a game, but from one of two series that cemented video games as a cinematic medium, when developers so desire. 35 years of build-up, and a love letter to the whole series, including (especially) the ones people derided (FNC). Also, interesting because it's not a direct quote of the title, but still something that everyone who got to this point recognized immediately.
- failbuffer 2y agoHmmm... I nominate Mortal Kombat (1995) for the cringiest title drops. Instead of being used once for a climatic fight scene, they keep dropping it over and over (10 times according to the article).
- nickdothutton 2y ago“A View to a Kill (1985)” The database does not recognise when the movie name is spoken by 2 people. In this movie 1 character begins the sentence “what a view…” and a 2nd character completes the line: “…to a kill”.
- throw4847285 2y agoHow about movies where the title drop is the very last line? I can only think of one (it's not really a spoiler, but SPOILERS I guess). The last line of My Dinner with Andre is "my dinner with Andre." I think that only works because the whole movie feels like a stage play, and there's something very stagey about that choice.
- zb 2y agoThe one that sprang to mind for me was The Name of the Rose. Oddly it doesn’t show up as a title drop in the data.
- bardan 2y agoNearest thing to a name drop is the end, but isnt a name drop (also spoilers): "And yet, now that I am an old, old man, I must confess that of all the faces that appear to me out of the past, the one I see most clearly is that of the girl of whom I've never ceased to dream these many long years. She was the only earthly love in my life, yet I never knew, nor ever learned, her name."
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- throw4847285 2y agoJust remembered that Good Time does this as well, and it's heartbreaking.
- gothroach 2y agoDoes this not take in to account lyrics in musical movies? I looked up Across the Universe and it reported zero name drops despite there being at least a dozen.
- TMWNN 2y agoFamily Guy on the topic: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8mYLi3PGOc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8mYLi3PGOc>