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If Ukraine losing a generation is not substantive enough for you to discuss that's okay you can bow out and let others speak.

• aguaviva 2y ago
  In itself is a substantial matter -- but you aren't using it that way. And again, it's a matter for Ukrainians to decide. To a first order approximation, I think we can trust that as a society, they know what they're fighting for, and why. If you disagree, and you think you know better than they do in this regard -- then my heartfelt recommendation (and closing words on this particular subtopic) for you is/are: go ahead, talk with them (directly, as live human beings) -- and "let them speak".
  • ipaddr 2y ago
    We know Zelenskyy recently removed most people in power because they want to talk peace. We also know Volodymyr Zelenskyy has stopped free elections and refuses to let his people vote on this issue. The other aspect is we have to decide if we in the west should keep supporting the self suicide strategy and tonight we find out who decides.