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I don't think public torrent trackers would have much incentive to do so, as their legal justification is that they aren't hosting or linking to files themselve

I don't think public torrent trackers would have much incentive to do so, as their legal justification is that they aren't hosting or linking to files themselves. If they were to run services like I2P they would probably have a harder time making that claim. Private trackers probably wouldn't want to do that because it probably would mess with the largely IP-based seed ratio requirements which most private trackers have.

fsflover 2y ago
> If they were to run services like I2P they would probably have a harder time making that claim. What are you talking about? Torrent servers in I2P don't store files either. > largely IP-based seed ratio requirements I thought it was largely account-based, not IP-based.
- aspenmayer 2y ago
  > What are you talking about? They don't store files either. Running I2P would require more storage than the status quo of not running it. They usually store torrents and or magnet links, not the files themselves. I don’t know how much overhead running I2P would be over and above running a tracker also? > I thought it was largely account-based, not IP-based. Yes, those are not mutually exclusive. You have an account and the tracker binds the IP that downloads the torrent to a cookie or to a unique tracker announce url.
  - fsflover 2y ago
    > Running I2P would require more storage than the status quo of not running it I don't think it's significant. You might confuse I2P with Hyphanet (formerly Freenet), which is dedicated to anonymous storage. > I don’t know how much overhead running I2P would be over and above running a tracker also? The overhead will depend on whether you want to keep your tracker's IP hidden. If not, it should be minimal AFAIK.
  - marxisttemp 2y ago
    You can seed from multiple IPs, e.g. a seedbox and your home connection. All the private trackers I know of simply use a token passed via URL query parameter to the tracker.
hkt 2y ago
Torrents.csv would let anyone set up a public tracker these days, FYI.
- aspenmayer 2y ago
  That’s a really cool idea! I haven’t heard of it before. > Torrents.csv is a collaborative git repository of torrents, consisting of a single, searchable torrents.csv file. Its initially populated with a January 2017 backup of the pirate bay, and new torrents are periodically added from various torrents sites. It comes with a self-hostable webserver, a command line search, and a folder scanner to add torrents. Do you know of any other interesting projects that involve p2p/torrents/debrid/i2p/tor or adjacent things like dht/freenet/willow/veilid? Here’s some interesting debrid stuff I found that may be of interest to you or others. https://github.com/debridmediamanager/awesome-debrid https://github.com/debridmediamanager/awesome-debrid

fsflover 2y ago

> If they were to run services like I2P they would probably have a harder time making that claim. What are you talking about? Torrent servers in I2P don't store files either. > largely IP-based seed ratio requirements I thought it was largely account-based, not IP-based.

aspenmayer 2y ago
> What are you talking about? They don't store files either. Running I2P would require more storage than the status quo of not running it. They usually store torrents and or magnet links, not the files themselves. I don’t know how much overhead running I2P would be over and above running a tracker also? > I thought it was largely account-based, not IP-based. Yes, those are not mutually exclusive. You have an account and the tracker binds the IP that downloads the torrent to a cookie or to a unique tracker announce url.
- fsflover 2y ago
  > Running I2P would require more storage than the status quo of not running it I don't think it's significant. You might confuse I2P with Hyphanet (formerly Freenet), which is dedicated to anonymous storage. > I don’t know how much overhead running I2P would be over and above running a tracker also? The overhead will depend on whether you want to keep your tracker's IP hidden. If not, it should be minimal AFAIK.
- marxisttemp 2y ago
  You can seed from multiple IPs, e.g. a seedbox and your home connection. All the private trackers I know of simply use a token passed via URL query parameter to the tracker.

hkt 2y ago

Torrents.csv would let anyone set up a public tracker these days, FYI.

aspenmayer 2y ago
That’s a really cool idea! I haven’t heard of it before. > Torrents.csv is a collaborative git repository of torrents, consisting of a single, searchable torrents.csv file. Its initially populated with a January 2017 backup of the pirate bay, and new torrents are periodically added from various torrents sites. It comes with a self-hostable webserver, a command line search, and a folder scanner to add torrents. Do you know of any other interesting projects that involve p2p/torrents/debrid/i2p/tor or adjacent things like dht/freenet/willow/veilid? Here’s some interesting debrid stuff I found that may be of interest to you or others. https://github.com/debridmediamanager/awesome-debrid https://github.com/debridmediamanager/awesome-debrid